Expansion & Notre Dame ...

[Joe]

Well for awhile CSTV paid the Big East and ND for the rights to everything outside of football and basketball. That deal ended in 2005.

You gotta look at the academic standing of ND too. The Big East gets to include them in their football profiles too (don't ask me why, but they do).

[South_Florida_Flip]

My point is that the Big East should kick out the non football sports of Notre Dame.

Why just ND? There are 7 other institutions in the Big East that do not play football. What does DePaul bring to the league that ND doesn't?

[Cow Pie]

The reality is Notre Dame is one of the top academic schools in the country with a recgonizable name that makes a ******** of money for the conference.

The BEast would make more more money if it became an all sports conference by sending the non-football schools packing and adding the 4 right teams to do so.

The right teams does not mean a current powerhouse... look what being a BCS team has done for Cincy, Louisville, and USF.

[hightechbull]

The reality is Notre Dame is one of the top academic schools in the country with a recgonizable name that makes a ****load of money for the conference.

The BEast would make more more money if it became an all sports conference by sending the non-football schools packing and adding the 4 right teams to do so.

The right teams does not mean a current powerhouse... look what being a BCS team has done for Cincy, Louisville, and USF.

Wrong wrong wrong.

Some of the Basketball powerhouses in the Big East do not play D-1 football or even have a football team.  Kicking out those schools is a big mistake and would permanently damage the reputation of Big East basketball.  In fact most of those non-football teams are charter Big East members, so they hold enough power to tell the football teams to get lost.  They could survive on their own as a basketball powerhouse league without football.

You may not be a basketball fan, but this is the current makeup of the Big East.

[Guest nybullsfan]

Sooooo many Notre Dame fans, which is really annoying.

yet people wonder why the big east lets them stick around for non-football sports.

they look at the ticket numbers and no matter the sport im sure that the ND game has one of the highest ticket sales.

From the basketball thread last night.

ND probably sells more away tickets than all the other schools combined (yah, I made up that statistic!)

[E.T.]

Can the conference have a seperate football sub-conference ?

[Joe]

It could and I think it eventually will (the spilt of 8 private Catholic schools and 8 football schools is too convinient. But you will never see ND join in football. Their annual TV money with NBC is bigger than our TOTAL annual football contract.

If ND joins a conference it will be one that maes them more money.

[Guest Sunburned]

I just don't see any hard evidence of the money Notre Dame brings.

Big East needs to do something about our "split" sports ... does another conference have non-football teams ?

When have you  had the opportunity to inspect the books of Notre Dame, or the Big East?

How about the increased attendance at the Sun Dome for ND basketball games?

USF played other sports in  conferences before they started playing football.

[Cow Pie]

Kicking out those schools is a big mistake and would permanently damage the reputation of Big East basketball. 

Football > Basketball

One way or another a split or schism will occur when we are inevitably raided by the Big10... the difference is of course if we do it ourselves then its viewed as a power move... if we allow Ohio State and Co. to do it to us its viewed as a major and continued weakness.

A 12 team all sports Big East (or what ever it may be called) will generate more revenue, as long as the right teams are added, then the continued setup.

Either way the days of the Big East being a basketball conference are hopefully numbered.

[80mins]

Kicking out those schools is a big mistake and would permanently damage the reputation of Big East basketball. 

Football > Basketball

One way or another a split or schism will occur when we are inevitably raided by the Big10... the difference is of course if we do it ourselves then its viewed as a power move... if we allow Ohio State and Co. to do it to us its viewed as a major and continued weakness.

A 12 team all sports Big East (or what ever it may be called) will generate more revenue, as long as the right teams are added, then the continued setup.

Either way the days of the Big East being a basketball conference are hopefully numbered.

The thing is, opting for this is easy for us from where we sit. If you ask us to pick now, side with football or basketball, the choice is easy. But when you ask that of Syracuse or UConn, whose bread and butter is certainly basketball, or even WVU, Cincy, or Louisville, the decision is considerably less clear. Put another way, just because a school is one of the eight with a football team doesn't mean they'd side with football if talks of a split were to come up.