PingBull Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,266 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/13/2004 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I wonder where Selvie ended up...http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4411477&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft10%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d44114771Sam BradfordQB6-4223 Analysis: Has underrated arm and great feel for position and is super-accurate.2Eric BerryDB5-11203Analysis: Ultimate playmaker, in the Ed Reed mold.3Carlos DunlapDE6-6240Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Unlimited upside potential.4Gerald McCoyDT6-4297Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead.5Ndamukong SuhDT6-4300Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent.To continue reading this article you must be an Insider... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Way too early to do a mock draft without knowing where NFL teams will finish. Who knows if the #1 pick will be a QB? What if the team drafting #1 doesn't need one - or signs a good free agent before the draft?My guess is Selvie is not in his first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TikiBull Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 356 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2005 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Tebow not in top 5? Surprising.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Not really. Tebow is a scheme QB. He never - never - lines up under center. He's not a pro-style QB... and he will have to learn how to make reads on defenses while back pedalling. Don't forget -- when a QB wins the Heisman, they almost always suck in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smmitty Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 377 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2007 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Selvie and Tebow not in top 25...Sam BradfordQB6-4223Analysis: Has underrated arm and great feel for position and is super-accurate.2Eric BerryDB5-11203Analysis: Ultimate playmaker, in the Ed Reed mold.3Carlos DunlapDE6-6240Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Unlimited upside potential.4Gerald McCoyDT6-4297Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead.5Ndamukong SuhDT6-4300Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent.6Taylor MaysDB6-3230Analysis: LB size and CB speed.7Jevan SneadQB6-3220Analysis: Could have pro career similar to that of former Rebel Eli Manning.8Dez BryantWR6-2220Analysis: Dynamic receiver, punt returner and TD maker.9Trent WilliamsOT6-5318Analysis: Quality all-around bookend, moves from RT to LT this season.10Arrelious BennWR6-2220Analysis: Silky smooth, with excellent run-after-catch ability.11Colt McCoyQB6-2210Analysis: Intelligent and resourceful. Can beat you with arm or legs.12Arthur JonesDT6-4291Analysis: Lives in the opponent's backfield.13Jonathan DwyerRB6-0235Analysis: Power back, adept at breaking off long runs.14Russell OkungOT6-5300Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blind-side pass protector.15Jermaine GreshamTE6-6258Analysis:Big-play TE, dynamic in the red zone.16Greg HardyDE6-5275Analysis: Difference-maker harassing the QB when at full strength.17Brandon SpikesLB6-3243Analysis: Complete MLB, solid in all areas.18Jerry HughesDE6-3257Analysis: Prolific pass rusher who could be a 3-4 OLB.19Terrence CodyDT6-5365Analysis: Tremendous clogger along the interior.20Sean WeatherspoonLB6-2245Analysis: Makes plays all over the field.21Jahvid BestRB5-10195Analysis: Versatile, game-breaker supreme.22Damian WilliamsWR6-1195Analysis: Polished receiver and extremely hard worker.23Sergio KindleLB6-4212Analysis: Production finally matched his talent last season.24Patrick RobinsonCB5-11194Analysis: Has the tools to excel at next level.25Brandon GrahamDE6-2270Analysis: Awesome athlete and force off the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted August 21, 2009 if tebow wants to make it in the league he is gonna have to be a matt jones type player. he will not be a full time nfl qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobulls83 Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,475 Reputation: 95 Days Won: 7 Joined: 02/14/2006 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Way too early to do a mock draft without knowing where NFL teams will finish. Who knows if the #1 pick will be a QB? What if the team drafting #1 doesn't need one - or signs a good free agent before the draft?Kiper doesn't do a draft projection. It's simply a ranking of this year's seniors. Subjective, of course, but fundamentally different from a draft projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted August 21, 2009 People are shy on Selvie after last season...another big year and he's a 1st rounder easy.As for Tebow, quit listening to the masses. Bradford lined up under center less than 10% of his snaps last fall.Tebow will be a QB in the NFL and a solid one. All the guy has done at UF is be great...do I see him as a great NFL QB?No. But he'll start and be solid for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudesweat Posted August 21, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 578 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/02/2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I love looking at Mock Drafts and NFL Prospect rankings. So I went ahead and compiled rankings and mock drafts from around the web and made a little condensed version.-------------------------------------Scout.com - In cahoots with ESPN 5 Stars - George Selvie (#2 DE) - (23rd Overall) - 1st Round4 Stars - Nate Allen (#11 S) - (127th Overall) - 4th Round3 Stars - Kion Wilson (#11 MLB) - (155th Overall) - 5th Round3 Stars - Jerome Murphy (#22 CB) - (210th Overall) - 7th Round3 Stars - Matt Grothe (#15 QB) - (220th Overall) - 7th Round2 Stars - Jesse Hester Jr. (#34 WR) - (379th Overall) - Not Drafted/Free AgencyLast year there were 256 picks in the NFL draft, so I put an estimate after their names' since Scout has no such draft projections. Obviously if two teams don't need DE's in the 1st round then George wouldn't be drafted there, but this gives you a general idea.--------------------------------------------This mock draft is linked from the CBS Sports website which I find odd because it seems in very poor quality and CBS has their very own NFL Prospect ranking section (see below).1st Round#6 Raiders - George Selvie#31 Patriots - Nate Allen5th Round#131 Chiefs - Matt GrotheNot the most believable of scenarios. Even weirder if you click the link to the 2010 Mock Draft at the bottom it's completely different with Selvie to Buffalo @ 11, Nate Allen to the 49ers in the 3rd round, and Grothe to Denver in the 5th round. No mention of Jerome Murphy anywhere.--------------------------------------------Now if you actually go to the NFL draft section of the CBS website you can get their breakdown of all prospects. 2010 Draft Prospects:George Selvie: 31st Overall prospect - 4th DE - Projected Round: 2ndNate Allen: 41st Overall prospect - 2nd FS - Projected Round: 2-3rdJerome Murphy: 50th Overall prospect - 7th CB - Projected Round: 2-3rdKion Wilson: 157th Overall prospect - 9th ILB - Projected Round: 5-6thMatt Grothe: 329th Overall prospect - 19th QB - Projected Round: Not Drafted2011 Draft Prospects:Carlton Mitchell - 11th WR - Projected Round: 3rdMike Ford - 13th RB - Projected Round: 5-6thAfter those guys they have a few of our 2011 guys listed like Sampson Genus, Craig Marshall, A.J. Love, Andrew Ketchel, and Terrell McClain. But none are expected to be drafted or picked up (at this point) via free agency in their mock draft/prospect rankings. It is, however, a good sign that they are listed which means they're being watched by someone. I'd try and find more and even look at their 2012 and 2013 rankings but searching through that site is very tedious.--------------------------------------------Walter Football - 2010 Draft ProspectsGeorge Selvie - 6th DE - Projected Round: 2ndNate Allen - 9th S - Projected Round: 3-4thJerome Murphy - 28th CB - Projected Round: 6-7th--------------------------------------------When you really dig deep it's funny what you can find out there. Jerome Murphy isn't even listed on some boards, some say he is a 2nd to 3rd round pick, or even a 6th or 7th. One website has Selvie, Grothe, Nate, and Chris Robinson on their top 100 NFL prospects. They have Robinson rated higher than Allen and Grothe, while also leaving off Jerome. Which only means they feel he isn't a top 100 prospect but also that Grothe and Robinson are better NFL prospects, which I kindly disagree. We'll clearly get a better gauge on this as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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