Rutgirls announces Football Schedule. 1 line sticks out

[South_Florida_Flip]

Schiano is not a wuss.  Rutgers contacted several BCS/FBS team about playing this year at Rutgers Stadium, but all said no for different reasons.  Some wanted their own home game or didn't want to travel to NJ.  The list of teams Rutgers approached were UNC (move the game up a year earlier), NC State, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas St., Minnesota, Colorado, Ole Miss (who still talking to RU for future games), UCLA (who also is still talking for future games), ND, UVA., Idaho, Wyoming, and BC.  The BC deal fell through even with the help of ESPN because of the timing for BC.

Funny how you didn't put FIU on the list.

[cubuffsdoug]

Schiano is not a wuss.  Rutgers contacted several BCS/FBS team about playing this year at Rutgers Stadium, but all said no for different reasons.  Some wanted their own home game or didn't want to travel to NJ.  The list of teams Rutgers approached were UNC (move the game up a year earlier), NC State, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas St., Minnesota, Colorado, Ole Miss (who still talking to RU for future games), UCLA (who also is still talking for future games), ND, UVA., Idaho, Wyoming, and BC.  The BC deal fell through even with the help of ESPN because of the timing for BC.

Funny how you didn't put FIU on the list.

For you reading is fundamental.  If you can take the time to re-read the post you will see I was talking about teams that were asked to visit Rutgers Stadium to fill the 12th game for RU.

[cubuffsdoug]

nonsense

you need to beat top teams on the road and build a reputation and a program

I think you missed the point about Rutgers scheduling problem.  For years Rutgers would give teams like Penn St. 3 games in State College with one at Giants Stadium and nothing on campus.  That is exactly what ND recently tried only Rutgers finally had enough of it.  Too bad Uconn fell for it (6 at ND 4 at Foxboro and/or Meadowlands).  Rutgers is willing to travel and play good BCS teams on the road, but not at the cost of selling their souls.  Now, Rutgers has developed a better rep and it's paying off with 1 and 1 deals with PSU, Miami and Maryland and 2 and 2 deals with UNC.  Ole Miss and UCLA are set to do 1 and 1 deals in the future without a problem.  Rutgers has to pay for the expanded stadium to 56K. 

Btw, I give USF props for going to Auburn and winning, but that win went for nothing in league play as USF hasn't been able to translated that success to BE success.  What other top team has USF beaten on the road?

[South_Florida_Flip]

For you reading is fundamental.  If you can take the time to re-read the post you will see I was talking about teams that were asked to visit Rutgers Stadium to fill the 12th game for RU.

I read your post and saw who you left off. Bottom line is you still screwed over a conference team because of your own scheduling woes. You can't spin that any other way.

[Jamie]

What other top team has USF beaten on the road?

If league games count, there was West Virginia in '06 when they were ranked #7 and had a clear path to a BCS bid. (The week after that was the ridiculous 3OT game where they kept Rutgers out of a BCS game.)

[cubuffsdoug]

For you reading is fundamental.  If you can take the time to re-read the post you will see I was talking about teams that were asked to visit Rutgers Stadium to fill the 12th game for RU.

I read your post and saw who you left off. Bottom line is you still screwed over a conference team because of your own scheduling woes. You can't spin that any other way.

In my original post I DID NOT leave FIU off as they were listed right along with other FBS teams on Rutgers future games.  It's you who is spinning it a different way to feel good about a situation between RU and USF.  If the truth is to be known, then is should be said RU had put it out there they were looking for a non BCS team to visit RU for a OK payout.  That payout was more than what USF was paying FIU.  The buyout (200K is low for FBS teams) by FIU was worth it to them as they can now earn more money.  It's no different when Syracuse bought out the return trip to Wyoming last year for 200K because they found a better payout game with someone else.  Hey, in '07 Buffalo dropped RU for a million dollar payout against Auburn.  Uconn offered their soul for a series with ND as RU was playing hardball with ND for better terms of agreement.  Uconn's first game against ND is this year and that was the game originally agreed in principle between ND and RU.  Syracuse is doing the same as both SU and Uconn need NJ to be successful in the recruiting game.  Neither state (NY & Ct.) produce enough D1 talent to sustain either program so they do what they have to and that's recruit hard in NJ.  That means playing games (more exposure) against a third team in the state of NJ for the purpose of recruiting without exposing kids to RU more than once in a league game.  I wish conference mates did more things together as the BE gets hammered by other BCS conferences, but if one screws another than no one trust the others.  That is what happened here.  Uconn screwed RU, RU screwed USF and SU who doesn't care about anyone in the BE screw RU.

[twillybull]

Did you catch that "darkened" line?

Should USF have that same scheduling theory?

seven home games is > six.

Rutgers has hundreds of millions of dollars in debt to pay off to expand their stadium, which only has like 40,000 seats at the moment. They need seven home games right now, but they're going to get some real crappy opponents because Schiano is a wuss and because the conference will only give them three home games every other year.

Schiano is not a wuss.  Rutgers contacted several BCS/FBS team about playing this year at Rutgers Stadium, but all said no for different reasons.  Some wanted their own home game or didn't want to travel to NJ.  The list of teams Rutgers approached were UNC (move the game up a year earlier), NC State, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas St., Minnesota, Colorado, Ole Miss (who still talking to RU for future games), UCLA (who also is still talking for future games), ND, UVA., Idaho, Wyoming, and BC.  The BC deal fell through even with the help of ESPN because of the timing for BC.  ND wanted a 6 for 3 deal (similar to Uconn) with no home games at Rutgers.  All Rutgers home games were to be played at Giant Stadium with a 50% gate split... that's not a home game.  RU still has to pay NJSEA fees for use of the Meadowlands (Giant Stadium), so that cuts in to profits.  Also, had not for Navy and Buffalo backing out of the deals with Rutgers this past summer/fall Rutgers would not have been in this position to begin.  Going foward the new Rutgers AD has made it clear that RU will not face such a problem as he is agressively attempting to change the make-up of the future schedule.  Army and Navy both have made it clear they might go in a different direction for future opponent and Rutgers is looking to beat them to the punch.  RU has signed deals with PSU (1 for 1 with the first game at RU) and Miami (1 for 1 with first the game at RU) and a 2 for 1 deal (RU w/ 2 home games) with Tulane.  Look for maybe Ole Miss or UCLA or an ACC to replace Army/Navy on the schedule by '11/'12.  Rutgers is close to deals with them for future games. 

Rutgers futrue FBS games: 

Maryland

UNC

PSU

Miami

Fresno St.

Tulane

Kent St.

FIU

Ohio

Deals close to be finalized (word on the street):

Ole Miss

ACC School (NC State)

UCLA

BC (RU wants deals with all of the old eastern independents)

   

So he is a wuss... he NEEDED that 7th home game really bad, ehh?  If Schiano had a pair, he'd forgo #7 at home to scheduel an away game against a real team with a future return trip.  You can't expect other BCS schools to oblige you a 7th home game this season while they're scrambling to find a 6th for themselves. 

[cubuffsdoug]

 

[South_Florida_Flip]

In my original post I DID NOT leave FIU off as they were listed right along with other FBS teams on Rutgers future games.  It's you who is spinning it a different way to feel good about a situation between RU and USF.  If the truth is to be known, then is should be said RU had put it out there they were looking for a non BCS team to visit RU for a OK payout.  That payout was more than what USF was paying FIU.  The buyout (200K is low for FBS teams) by FIU was worth it to them as they can now earn more money.  It's no different when Syracuse bought out the return trip to Wyoming last year for 200K because they found a better payout game with someone else.  Hey, in '07 Buffalo dropped RU for a million dollar payout against Auburn.  Uconn offered their soul for a series with ND as RU was playing hardball with ND for better terms of agreement.  Uconn's first game against ND is this year and that was the game originally agreed in principle between ND and RU.  Syracuse is doing the same as both SU and Uconn need NJ to be successful in the recruiting game.  Neither state (NY & Ct.) produce enough D1 talent to sustain either program so they do what they have to and that's recruit hard in NJ.  That means playing games (more exposure) against a third team in the state of NJ for the purpose of recruiting without exposing kids to RU more than once in a league game.  I wish conference mates did more things together as the BE gets hammered by other BCS conferences, but if one screws another than no one trust the others.  That is what happened here.  Uconn screwed RU, RU screwed USF and SU who doesn't care about anyone in the BE screw RU.

You're the one spinning. There is no way I am spinning this to "feel good" about the situation because the bottom line is that you guys royally screwed USF over at the 11th hour. There is absolutely no way to spin that.

You can try to spin the buyout all you want because FIU has to pay more to get up to your place now and they won't bring as many fans (not that they have many to begin with) up there as they would have here.

RU playing hardball with ND is what cost them that series, not UConn. You're not going to win that type of negotiating with ND (even though I totally agree with what RU was trying to do). They'll just move on to someone who is willing to meet their needs (enter UConn) because there is someone out there who will. Those games also didn't begin 9 months before a scheduled game was to take place. UConn solidified that deal about a year ago, if not longer.

If you want conference mates to do more things together in a positive, then don't go screwing them over.

[smazza]

ru owns usf

schiano has routinely outcoached leavitt

as to the other stuff ,does it really matter