smazza Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 25, 2007 The Trib online has as its poll, "Who is this season's MVP?" it listed:RB Mike FordQB Matt GrotheLB Ben MoffittDE George SelvieCB Trae WilliamsAll worthy of mention but what I found interesting is that the one most likely to be drafted first, Mike Jenkins, was conspicuously absent.MVP awards will always favor those who's position generates big stats. Certainly we wouldn't be where we are today without Matt but each of those listed plus Jenkins and quite a few others played at a very high level all season long.The Times didn't have such a poll but if they do, it will be interesting to see who they list.I was gonna mention Mike Jenkins. His play is vastly underrated. He changes what the offense does so much because he essentially locks down a 1/3 of the field, other players are are given opportunities to make plays because of the opposing quarterback's reluctance to throw to his side. If you notice, Trae Williams is usually the corner that gives up the big play and its never Mike. Mike Jenkins is the best player on the team by far, thats why he will be a mid to high 1st round pick in April. Trae will probably end up being a middle to late 2nd rnd pick, maybe even a 3rd rounder. jenkins is always talked about''he couldnt stop ru's underwood when it mattered most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I think Moffitt is my choice...Selvie very close... As is McKenzie... Real hard to not choose Jenkins or Williams...Grothe will be the next two years...moffitt disappeared in 3 lossesgrothe is the mvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampaboi07 Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 563 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I think everyone knows whos the MVP but who is the best player overall?Tmac had 18 tackles vs Pitt....WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSSMOOTH Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 849 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Easily Grothe.I disagree very much so, Grothe was responsible for none of our big wins and responsible for all of our losses by not performing in crunch time. With Grant Gregory we could have gotten comparable production and we would have been able to stretch the field a lot more considering that Gregory has a waaay better arm than Grothe and he is just as fast if not faster. His decision making couldn't be that much worse than Grothe considering that Grothe has over 15 turnovers in 12 games. At WVU, Grothe played terrible but the defense bailed him out. At Auburn he was a decent game manager and made a few big plays but also gave up field position by running backwards a few times and getting sacked for huge losses. At Rutgers, he took way too many unnecessary sacks by scrambling and losing lots of yards, he did the same at UConn and he was flat out atrocious against Cincy.His best games were against teams with crappy defenses including UNC, UCF, Syracuse and Louisville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUTH D. Antagonist Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,249 Reputation: 342 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/09/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Without Grothe we go nowhere.i disagree.as good as Grothe is, our D has bailed us out of several games when the offense couldnt move the ball.the strongest part of our team--- especially in the big games early in the year--- was the D, so IMO the MVP should be a defensive player... it's a tossup for me between Ben, George, Jenk or Trae.imagine the WVU game without the defensive touchdown... it would be 14-13 and a sure FG would have won it for WVU.imagine the Pitt game without the defensive touchdown and the long INT return by Moffitt...imagine the Auburn game without the game saving INTs by Allen and Jenk...gotta be the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSSMOOTH Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 849 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 The Trib online has as its poll, "Who is this season's MVP?" it listed:RB Mike FordQB Matt GrotheLB Ben MoffittDE George SelvieCB Trae WilliamsAll worthy of mention but what I found interesting is that the one most likely to be drafted first, Mike Jenkins, was conspicuously absent.MVP awards will always favor those who's position generates big stats. Certainly we wouldn't be where we are today without Matt but each of those listed plus Jenkins and quite a few others played at a very high level all season long.The Times didn't have such a poll but if they do, it will be interesting to see who they list.I was gonna mention Mike Jenkins. His play is vastly underrated. He changes what the offense does so much because he essentially locks down a 1/3 of the field, other players are are given opportunities to make plays because of the opposing quarterback's reluctance to throw to his side. If you notice, Trae Williams is usually the corner that gives up the big play and its never Mike. Mike Jenkins is the best player on the team by far, thats why he will be a mid to high 1st round pick in April. Trae will probably end up being a middle to late 2nd rnd pick, maybe even a 3rd rounder. jenkins is always talked about''he couldnt stop ru's underwood when it mattered mostYour a fool for saying that. Tiquan Underwood had a 5 catches for 114 yards and 69 yards was on one play where T-Mac missed the tackle on that play that allowed it to happen. Mike was playing zone. So Tiquan Underwood had 4 catches for 45 yards. I have the audio interview on my computer where T-mac admits that play was on him. I like how you cite one game for why Mike isn't the best especially considering that he did shut down Tiquan Underwood. Also considering that Mike Teel was 11/29 179 yards passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsOnThaRize8 Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,894 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Can I get a NATE ALLEN FRESHMAN ALL SEASON HUGE IMPACT....THE KID........UNBELIEVABLE...ALLEN AND WILLIAMS BEST SAFETY TANDEM IN THE COUNTRY NEXT YEAR...although id like to see allen move to cb and see verpale back at safety help the team out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUTH D. Antagonist Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,249 Reputation: 342 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/09/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Can I get a NATE ALLEN FRESHMAN ALL SEASON HUGE IMPACT....THE KID........UNBELIEVABLE...ALLEN AND WILLIAMS BEST SAFETY TANDEM IN THE COUNTRY NEXT YEAR...although id like to see allen move to cb and see verpale back at safety help the team outAllen is a sophomore, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted November 25, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 37,673 Reputation: 2,365 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Allen is a True Soph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsOnThaRize8 Posted November 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,894 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 pretty sure he was a freshman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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