Triple B Posted March 3, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,712 Reputation: 10,930 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 3, 2007 sarcasimComputer software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukebull Posted March 3, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 92 Content Count: 1,812 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2005 Share Posted March 3, 2007 sarcasimComputer software?I think disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,070 Reputation: 10,843 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Like a farmer that prepares his fields with his oxen and rants over the success of his neighbor farmer who is yielding 10X the crop each and every year, we need to make a decision.  Do we get new oxen or do we find a way to get one of those "Dear John" mechanical contraptions.I believe USF should make a change if, and only if, the financial backing to make the full committment to the program is there.  If DW can not emerge from his meeting and declare a new era in USF hoops that can be supported financially (without detracting from other ongoing operations and other programs), we are not ready to make that committment.Until such time as that committment can be made, we need to rely on the current oxen.  I am not in favor of change for the sake of change - to disrupt what is underway - or to take longshot odds of making it happen faster with the "young coach du jour"; or to simply go get new oxen with no true ability to put that yoke on and drag the whole program with them.  As I have said, I do not believe a simple coaching change will turn around the history of this program.  It is unwise to assume so.  This would only lead to the hyenas starting a "Fire <insert name>" campaign in 1.5 years.  Do we really want to perpetuate this cycle?In all sincerity, I hope we have the wherewithall to make a change.  If not, then things remain as they are and I support the continued efforts McCullum will put forward.  Despite the losses, I have seen many good things out of McCullum and I have seen him overcome some staggering difficulties.  Regardless of what some say, he has turned parts of the program around.  He needs to start earning the Ws.  He may in fact benefit from USF's underspending in Basketball and have another year - I don't know.  DW is the man that knows the books.  So that none of the "more dense" crowd (you know who you are) confuse this commentary with fence-sitting, I will encourage you to read the entire post again, especially the the opening sentence on the paragraph above.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted March 4, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,503 Reputation: 1,253 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Like a farmer that prepares his fields with his oxen and rants over the success of his neighbor farmer who is yielding 10X the crop each and every year, we need to make a decision.  Do we get new oxen or do we find a way to get one of those "Dear John" mechanical contraptions.I believe USF should make a change if, and only if, the financial backing to make the full committment to the program is there.  If DW can not emerge from his meeting and declare a new era in USF hoops that can be supported financially (without detracting from other ongoing operations and other programs), we are not ready to make that committment.Until such time as that committment can be made, we need to rely on the current oxen.  I am not in favor of change for the sake of change - to disrupt what is underway - or to take longshot odds of making it happen faster with the "young coach du jour"; or to simply go get new oxen with no true ability to put that yoke on and drag the whole program with them.  As I have said, I do not believe a simple coaching change will turn around the history of this program.  It is unwise to assume so.  This would only lead to the hyenas starting a "Fire <insert name>" campaign in 1.5 years.  Do we really want to perpetuate this cycle?In all sincerity, I hope we have the wherewithall to make a change.  If not, then things remain as they are and I support the continued efforts McCullum will put forward.  Despite the losses, I have seen many good things out of McCullum and I have seen him overcome some staggering difficulties.  Regardless of what some say, he has turned parts of the program around.  He needs to start earning the Ws.  He may in fact benefit from USF's underspending in Basketball and have another year - I don't know.  DW is the man that knows the books.  So that none of the "more dense" crowd (you know who you are) confuse this commentary with fence-sitting, I will encourage you to read the entire post again, especially the the opening sentence on the paragraph above.  I can say that I see where you are coming from, I just find it hard to believe that even with our history it is hard to recruit good players from around the country to play BIG EAST Basketball in FLORIDA. I think that coach has failed as a recruiter. I hope we say we want to win in basketball. The move to the big east was supose to bring in dollars. Where are those dollars going? I just feel that there have to be tons of coaches that want to coach in the Big East. Do I think we can be a winning basketball program with CRM? NO. He may be a decent coach but he is in over his head. Leeroy should have never given a coach who had coached 3 years at WMU (2 losing seasons I believe) a 6 year contract. This has hurt the program. Hopefully the money is there to go in a new direction. I JUST WANT TO WIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBulls Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 41 Content Count: 477 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 With respect to people believing that a person can not win at USF, or a coach can't recruit at USF, or the notion that USF is a graveyard of future coaches....."The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a wide-spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensibleâ€ÂBertrand Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanbull Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 6,843 Reputation: 1,110 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Those dollars are going for football. it is football that will elevate our other sports in time. till then our other programs will struggle for the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,070 Reputation: 10,843 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 4, 2007 How does 6 years become so bad? I guarantee you the next coach will have at least 5 years. And it won't be at a paltry $200/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted March 4, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,503 Reputation: 1,253 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 do we get any part of the Big East tv contract? I know a big portion of that was due to basketball. No increase in funds there? I agree dont take money from football. Take funds from every other sport though. Mens Basketball and Football are the only real sports in the NCAA that are most likely to generate cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,712 Reputation: 10,930 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 4, 2007 With respect to people believing that a person can not win at USF, or a coach can't recruit at USF, or the notion that USF is a graveyard of future coaches....."The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; [highlight]indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a wide-spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensibleâ€Â[/highlight]Bertrand RussellAh, so THAT explains this poll:Fire Mac   49 (66.2%)Keep Mac  25 (33.7%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2007 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,070 Reputation: 10,843 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 4, 2007 With respect to people believing that a person can not win at USF, or a coach can't recruit at USF, or the notion that USF is a graveyard of future coaches....."The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a wide-spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensibleâ€ÂBertrand RussellJoeBulls,While I appreciate your attempt. What you are referrign to as opinion has become proven fact. but that thanks for the quote."The correct action is not to deny the problem, but to find ways to overcome it."Brad Meyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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