theman123 Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 411 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted January 27, 2007 and this great batch will get usf a mighty ranking in the 50s?please tell me why this matters to you?  you do know that these ranking systems are completely subjective and are often the product of one or two people, right?it's not like the AP poll, in which 60+ people vote - which can remove a lot of bias.heck, for scout, the usf board administrator had to contact the scout HQ and convince them to change a couple of rankings by sending videos and making a case... if that doesn't tell you that any ranking of recruiting classes is completely bogus, I don't know what would...so, smazza, please tell us why it is important for USF to appear higer on some magic list of irrelevant measurements...a team like usf that finishes in the 50's will never ever win the big east.there is a correlation to the teams that recruit well and their on field performanceonly schools that arent in top 25 scream rankings dont matterLouisiville is below us so they cant win either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbane Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 3,403 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 and this great batch will get usf a mighty ranking in the 50s?please tell me why this matters to you? you do know that these ranking systems are completely subjective and are often the product of one or two people, right?it's not like the AP poll, in which 60+ people vote - which can remove a lot of bias.heck, for scout, the usf board administrator had to contact the scout HQ and convince them to change a couple of rankings by sending videos and making a case... if that doesn't tell you that any ranking of recruiting classes is completely bogus, I don't know what would...so, smazza, please tell us why it is important for USF to appear higer on some magic list of irrelevant measurements...a team like usf that finishes in the 50's will never ever win the big east.there is a correlation to the teams that recruit well and their on field performanceonly schools that arent in top 25 scream rankings dont matterthe only thing that will probably never happen is you understanding recruiting rankings. we are ahead of UL right now. they just won the big east. not only is the recruiting not over, the rankings are inaccurate and not updated enough to be trusted. people have continually documented the valid reasons for why the recruiting rankings are not accurate, yet you continue to ignore that and cling to rankings.yeah, UF probably has a better class than us, but it's only teams that are very far apart that you can say that. and as for the top 25, A LOT of fans complain about the fairness there, because again, it doesn't always make sense. and those are the recruits they watch more closely.I just don't see why you continue to ignore all the underrated players that we've had. All the inaccuracies of recruiting rankings. It gives you an estimate, but at least wait until signing day is over before you rail on meaningless ranking numbers. and again, we are ahead of UL so like the person before me says they must not ever be able to win the big east again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted January 28, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted January 28, 2007 and this great batch will get usf a mighty ranking in the 50s?please tell me why this matters to you?  you do know that these ranking systems are completely subjective and are often the product of one or two people, right?it's not like the AP poll, in which 60+ people vote - which can remove a lot of bias.heck, for scout, the usf board administrator had to contact the scout HQ and convince them to change a couple of rankings by sending videos and making a case... if that doesn't tell you that any ranking of recruiting classes is completely bogus, I don't know what would...so, smazza, please tell us why it is important for USF to appear higer on some magic list of irrelevant measurements...a team like usf that finishes in the 50's will never ever win the big east.there is a correlation to the teams that recruit well and their on field performanceonly schools that arent in top 25 scream rankings dont matterthe only thing that will probably never happen is you understanding recruiting rankings.  we are ahead of UL right now.  they just won the big east.  not only is the recruiting not over, the rankings are inaccurate and not updated enough to be trusted.  people have continually documented the valid reasons for why the recruiting rankings are not accurate, yet you continue to ignore that and cling to rankings.yeah, UF probably has a better class than us, but it's only teams that are very far apart that you can say that.  and as for the top 25, A LOT of fans complain about the fairness there, because again, it doesn't always make sense.  and those are the recruits they watch more closely.I just don't see why you continue to ignore all the underrated players that we've had.  All the inaccuracies of recruiting rankings.  It gives you an estimate, but at least wait until signing day is over before you rail on meaningless ranking numbers.  and again, we are ahead of UL so like the person before me says they must not ever be able to win the big east again.i dont ignore the underated playersit is time usf recruit with the big boysleavitt has been here 10 yearsul just lost their head coachif usf lost leavitt usf's ranking would be in 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbane Posted January 28, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 3,403 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2005 Share Posted January 28, 2007 if usf lost leavitt usf's ranking would be in 90sWell, at least you accept how good Leavitt is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTipp Posted January 28, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 108 Content Count: 2,484 Reputation: 288 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/26/2005 Share Posted January 28, 2007 its rare that you find a QB that is ineligableoh really??....we already had one here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted January 28, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted January 28, 2007 if usf lost leavitt usf's ranking would be in 90sWell, at least you accept how good Leavitt is.leavitt has done a fantastic jobif he left it would hurt usf in short term if they didnt bring in someone that could mine talent in areai believe leavitt will not win the big east at usfi believe leavitt isnt that good a recruiteri believe leavitt is a great defensive coach and motivator but terrible disciplinarianater 10 years,i beleive usf should be out recruiting all other big east teams and competing for a title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted January 28, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 961 Content Count: 9,759 Reputation: 592 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thats true. If Culpepper could get his grades in order anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulls96go Posted January 30, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 724 Content Count: 10,219 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted January 30, 2007 hard to say this but we are ok at QB with grothe and gregorywe will need a good recruit next year to be ready when grothe leaves.i hope we do not get back to a julmiste situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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