Velcro Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 28, 2004 unless the water is laced with testosterone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLO12 Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,148 Content Count: 6,502 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2003 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yes, Ephedra is now illegal... creatine is not.  Creatine does not increase body size... in increases your muscles ability to work out harder for a period of time, so really, you worked out harder than you could have, thus, along with the protien, were able to gain wait.  I too did the same thing, not 30 lbs, but about 20.  Creatine isn't responsible for building the muscles, unlike steroids which are testosterone based.And your head doesn't get bigger does it Velcro??I was watching the Baroid laast night and his freaking head filled my BIG SCREEN TV...IT WAS HUGE!!!  Scared my dog it was so big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Its so big it can eclipse the sun from 1/4 mile away <---- yes, hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshiznitz Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Sorry no it doesnt add up. Adding muscle makes you both faster and slower ??? Either adding muscle allows you to accelerate faster (both upper or lower body parts) or slows you down because of size and bulk (once again both upper and lower body parts). It does not make you faster in accelerating one muscle group while slowing you down in another muscle group. Sorry try again. You make the comparison with boxers punching harder, yet homeruns are generated by bat speed. Swinging harder is not the same as swinging faster. But he had only a few select seasons where he could put the two together20-20 Seasons: Bonds 10 Williams Zero30-30 Seasons: Bonds 5 Williams Zero40-40 Seasons: Bonds 1 Williams ZeroThere are only 4 people(Andre Dawson, Bobby Bonds, Barry Bonds and Willie Mays) in the history of baseball that have been able to accomplish 300SB and 300HR. Bonds is not only the only member of the 400-400 club but now resides at 500-500 Only person in the history of the game Bonds is one of only 3(ARod, Canseco and Bonds) to accomplish 40HR-40SB in one season. Bonds had more MVPs. Bonds is better on defense. Bonds is a better power hitter. Bonds is (by a large margin) a better speed threat. No I think my arguement is pretty rock solid. ;DJust admit ya'll are Bonds haters and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 28, 2004 And you are bonds' lover, so lets move on us moving on won't change the fact that Bond's accomplishments will be forever blemished in the eyes of millions of people. It is a big issue, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLO12 Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,148 Content Count: 6,502 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2003 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I never said I hated Bonds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 29, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 1-3 2 bbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 29, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Sorry no it doesnt add up. Adding muscle makes you both faster and slower ??? Either adding muscle allows you to accelerate faster (both upper or lower body parts) or slows you down because of size and bulk (once again both upper and lower body parts). It does not make you faster in accelerating one muscle group while slowing you down in another muscle group. Sorry try again. You make the comparison with boxers punching harder, yet homeruns are generated by bat speed. Swinging harder is not the same as swinging faster. 20-20 Seasons:  Bonds 10 Williams Zero30-30 Seasons:  Bonds 5 Williams Zero40-40 Seasons:  Bonds 1 Williams ZeroThere are only 4 people(Andre Dawson, Bobby Bonds, Barry Bonds and Willie Mays) in the history of baseball  that have been able to accomplish 300SB and 300HR. Bonds is not only the only member of the 400-400 club but now resides at 500-500 Only person in the history of the game Bonds is one of only 3(ARod, Canseco and Bonds) to accomplish 40HR-40SB in one season. Bonds had more MVPs. Bonds is better on defense. Bonds is a better power hitter. Bonds is (by a large margin) a better speed threat. No I think my arguement is pretty rock solid.  ;DJust admit ya'll are Bonds haters and move on. BullshiznitsYou say that adding muscle(weight) will not make you run slower? Or are you saying it will make you run slower but will also make you swing less? I find it very strange that you can stand by that arguement. You can talk all you want about SB's but Ted scored more runs. SB's dont win ball games, scoring more runs then the opposition does. You are a Bonds mark flat out. It makes no difference to you if he was shooting up in the dugout during warmups does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 29, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Ted Williams Triple crowns 1942, 1947, Neither year did he win MVP. Ted Williams was the last hitter to hit .400, he did not win MVP then either. With those three seasons he would have won 5 mvp. I dont think you can argue that a guy would win a triple crown and not win MVP now? Or if a guy bats .400 he wouldnt win? Barry Bonds Triple Crowns ZERO.Ted Williams Batting titles 6, 2nd in average 4.Bonds batting titles 1, 2nd in avg 0Williams OBP titles 12 out of 13 yaers he qualifiedBonds OBP titles 7Williams slugging pct titles 9bonds slugging titles 6Williams runs titles 6Bonds runs titles 1Williams top ten in hits 10Bonds top ten in hits 1Williams total bases titles 6Bonds TB titles 1Williams HR titles 4Bonds HR titles 2Williams rbi title 4Bonds rbi titles 2Williams BB titles 8Bonds BB titles 9Williams Years with 130+ runs 6Bonds years with 130+ runs 0Williams years with 120+ rbi 7Bonds years with 120+ rbi 3Williams years batting .330+ 11Bonds years batting .330+ 3Williams years batting below .300 1Bonds years batting below .300 8Ted Williams had a season high of 4 sb. Bonds blows him out of the water without question. Runs win games and Teddy scored more runs per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 29, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 29, 2004 More muscle means you can swing harder and faster, but also means you weigh a ton more... it is obvious that if you weigh a ton more, it'll be tougher to be fast. You don't see muscle bound sprinters in the olympics, but you do see muscle bound shotputters. Hitting is a combination of technique (which bonds has and is great at) and muscle. Argue it all you want BS, but claiming there is no link between steroids and homeruns is very naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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