___ Eats It Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 And no my opinion will not change. I still have yet to read, see or hear any type of scientific proof that steriods help you hit a baseball.Steroids don't help you hit a baseball. You have to have the hand-eye coordination already. But, if you've put on 40 lbs of muscle thanks to Roids, you have increased bat speed which turns those 370 ft fly outs to left into 400 ft bombs into the seats. It's not rocket science.By the way, added muscle also slows you down. Isn't it ironic then that Barry's homer totals started skyrocketing from 2000-2003 (49, 73, 46, 45) while his Stolen Base totals are about a quarter of what they were when he wasn't juicing (11, 13, 9, 7 for the same years, respectively, down from a high of 52. It's ironic that he's gotten "better" with power and yet slower, isn't it? Couldn't be related to all that roid weight he put on, could it?Williams is better. Plus, he didn't cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 only beanheads think williams is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted April 28, 2004 0-2 .478 with 2 walks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 28, 2004 only beanheads think williams is betterOnly left coasters think Bonds is the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bullshiznitzII Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 But, if you've put on 40 lbs of muscle thanks to Roids, you have increased bat speed By the way, added muscle also slows you downWait, let me get this straight. Roids make you faster when it comes to swinging a bat but slower when it comes to running. I like how you try to spin that to suit your arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Wait, let me get this straight. Roids make you faster when it comes to swinging a bat but slower when it comes to running. I like how you try to spin that to suit your arguement. Does that not make sense to you Bull? The added weight and bulk slows him on bases but the added muscle lets him swing a bat faster. Makes perfect sense to me. If a boxer puts on a ton of weight and musle it will slow him down in the ring from his smaller size but he will hit a lot harder. Is that spin also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 By the way, as far as your fielding argument goes... Williams committed 27 more errors than Bonds in his career, which spanned 19 seasons.  That's less than 2 errors a year.Hardly a drastic total to warrant him being considered THAT much better of a fielder, or Williams that much worse.Bonds HAD more speed when he was younger and HAS more power now that he's roided up.  But he had only a few select seasons where he could put the two together, and even then his all around hitting didn't compare to Williams.Try again.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Does that not make sense to you Bull? The added weight and bulk slows him on bases but the added muscle lets him swing a bat faster.  Makes perfect sense to me.  If a boxer puts on a ton of weight and musle it will slow him down in the ring from his smaller size but he will hit a lot harder.  Is that spin also?I thought it was self explanatory, myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 28, 2004 It is self explanitory, but when the arguement breaks down, you gotta try and find something wrong with the symantecs of the statement to invalidate it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 28, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 You can lead a Bonds-lover to water, but you can't make him drink... ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now