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4 minutes ago, Rocky Style said:

Yes to "be aggressive" :iconic_u_black:

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I think he has some kind of grizzly bear thing ....

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4 hours ago, Rocky Style said:

For those who say they like going for it on 4th on our own 30 in the 1st QTR because it's aggressive, I would like to say punching a grizzly bear in the face is also aggressive.  

But you shouldn't do it.  Know what I mean?  There's other factors in that risk reward calc.

not apples to apples but NFL 4th down bot says to go for it on 4th and 1 from your own 30 in the first quarter when down by 7.

 

 

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1 hour ago, CousinRicky said:

To show how tough you are - like going on in on 4th down from your own 25.

Not sure the 4th down bot is going to tell you to punch a bear in the face but it will tell you to go for it on your own 30 in the 1st quarter on 4th and 1 when down by 7.

 

Just listen to the analytics. Most people think too conservatively.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

4th down bot says to go for it on 4th and 1 from your own 30 in the first quarter when down by 7.

Cool.  As awesome as that bot is, I'll go with no.

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2 minutes ago, Rocky Style said:

Cool.  As awesome as that bot is, I'll go with no.

so you don't believe in analytics?

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1 minute ago, Bull94 said:

so you don't believe in analytics?

I think he has some kind of grizzly bear thing ....

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2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

so you don't believe in analytics?

No, I don't believe they are sacred or just because a prediction model says you should do it that you should.  

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I think he has some kind of grizzly bear thing ....

I just think the reasoning to "be aggressive" is not enough. That argument was silly to me.

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3 minutes ago, Rocky Style said:

No, I don't believe they are sacred or just because a prediction model says you should do it that you should.  

I just think the reasoning to "be aggressive" is not enough. That argument was silly to me.

so you don't believe in analytics.

you trust your gut.

you absolutely should follow the math. if it increases your chance for success then you do it.

of course that doesn't mean it will always work out.

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so you don't believe in analytics.

you trust your gut.

No just always skeptical.  I don't think its a good idea to trust predictions without first understanding the data elements (relevant factors) being used.  For example, can an NFL model account for a college team that hasn't won a road game since 2019?  I would imagine NFL has a greater consistency of output. 

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16 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

you absolutely should follow the math. if it increases your chance for success then you do it.

Does that include ESPN math?

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