2003 vs 2005 offense

[Cubanbull]

Same as other thread but in offense:

QB's

2003: Julmiste: Banks

2005: Denson : Jumiste, Grothe, Hill

RB's

2003: Green: Crossley,Brewer, Callum

2005: Hall: Ponton, Simpson

WR's

2003: Whitaker,Hicks, Feldman :

Bck Ups: Iskra,Sheffield, Gipson, SJ Green, D Carter

2005: Chambers, Peyton, SJ Green

Bck ups: King, D Carter, T Johnson,Hester,Garris

OLine:

2003: Sarosi,Davis,Herron,Carothers,Newton

Bck ups: Miller, Huebner,J Daniel

2005: Davis, Searcy,Miller, Carothers, Springfield

Bck Ups: Griffin, Dile,Walker, Towe, Huners, De Armas

The 2003 line up was from the Memphis game last in 03 and any players that played in that game was included as back ups.

So  how do you guys feel we stack up?

[bulls96go]

QB is the key

hope someone steps up big time

[Cubanbull]

QB situation is better than it was in 03

[smazza]

96 is right

whether  this years qbs are better is yet to be determined

[Cubanbull]

Well lets see in 03 we had Banks and Julmiste in his first year

in 05 we have Julmiste in his JR year, Denson, Grothe and Hill.

There is NO debate that 05 is better in that last game we had Julmiste in his third startting game Banks never saw the field.

[smazza]

there is plenty of debate

are you talking about qb play,offense,team play or results

jewelmiste hasn't improved from day one

i bet jewelmiste is no better as a junior than a freshman

you are speculating 05 will be better

[Cubanbull]

Thats NOT true im NOT saying Julmiste is a good QB BUT if you dont think he improved from his first to his second year then you were NOT watching the games.

Completion rate:

Yr 1 44.1 %

Yr 2 47.8%

Passing efficiency

Yr 1 107.91

Yr 2 114.04

Passing Yds:

Yr 1 402

Yr 2 1570

He might NOT have improved as much as we all would have liked and he might never be a good college QB BUT the facts are that he has improved.

Banks stats last year 53 passes 26  completions 234 yds ZERO tds 3 int. Do you really think that Denson, Grothe or Hill WONT do any better?

and since 05 season hasnt started yet of course everything said will be speculating, just like you saying well be no better in 05

[Jim Johnson]

you are speculating 05 will be better

Just as you have constantly speculated 05 will be worse.

Cuban put up some solid evidence, smazza... do you have any to counter it??

[BullDoug]

If QB play doesn't improve (It can't get much worse.), scrap the no-hubble west coast O and let's run the veer with Andre & a three headed QB (PJ/Denson/Hill).

[smazza]

jimsig

yeah- we sucked the last two years,have a  more inexperienced coach at the OC and we don't have a proven qb.history dictates we will not do well this year

even the improvement is substandard for our level.

even if jewelmiste improved at the same rate he would still   be terrible using cuban's evidence.

jimsig-you are unrealistic if you think jewelmist can play at this level after his performance to datw