ArmyBull

Those that care will come if we built it for 75mil (exaggeration, yes). Point being is that it is way past time to stop pandering to the “I want my special things” crowd and get those on campus that want to be here, plus the walkability for students. The fans will come no matter what, the others can pound sand.

If we are looking at 250 mil, we are doing it wrong, we can agree on that. That dollar amount can be way, way lower.

If one is looking for an ROI on the structure, then no, but that is not the investment potential. You can’t look at it as you would a real property investment, that is missing the point. The IPF, the Sun Dome, etc are not money makers, they are facilities investments. Football will always drive the bus and every year that goes by without us having an OCS is a missed opportunity. There are plenty of options that would work for us, P5 or not. We don’t need to build Rayjay on campus.

Always so much confirmation bias going on in these threads. Made up facts about how awful owning an OCS is (save the one or two FCS articles please). If we had an OCS we would not be clamoring to get into Ray jay, we would be talking about how awesome it is to have our own place. Can’t think of one other college football fan base that would even suggest they would rather not own an OCS. The OCS discussion is always the same. Simply put, an OCS is an investment in the future fan base, brings people back to campus, builds the college tradition, etc. But some just refuse to see that.

Slightly depressing thread.

Personally, the problem is that folks fail to realize that our own CCG IS the big game we have to win. That game will be against the likes of c, Houston, Memphis, etc. if we don’t win that..... well, failed season. That should be our goal every year and the biggest game on the calendar.

Not complicated, must win the games that matter; i.e., the conference championship and the NY6. No one cares about anything else because not accomplishing that means we lost to another AAC team when it mattered. We can schedule Ohio State, Bama, Clemson all in the same year, but if we can’t beat c, Houston, or Memphis when it matters no one will care.

...what year are we only going to have three home games? I am really okay with the Bama 2 for 1. Never thought I would see that happen, but hope we don't keep this up.

Kinda, just confirms we will not have an OCS in the next four years at least.

That being said, build the OCS and bring on the likes of Southern Mississippi and Appalachian State.

I mean, we are a better draw than c. While I want an OCS, the fact that we play in 65k seat stadium allows us to schedule games like these. Visiting teams know that at a minimum it will be a 50/50 crowd. If we had our own 45k place there would barely be room for the visiting teams fans. No way would Bama travel to a stadium with only a 3-4K guaranteed allotment. I guess that it a silver lining in the OCS debate.

Agree, scheduling and losing most of these games is worse than not scheduling them at all. The conference and access bowl is the only thing truly in reach. If we can’t get through Memphis, Houston, or c, it does not really matter.

This is Big!

Would be an awful match up. Toledo usually runs high tempo and is very solid.

When the expansion announcement comes, the time for “killing” will have well past. When exactly do you plan on starting?

Good lord, we sound pathetic. Like losing a game and blaming the refs x1000 pathetic. Sugarcoat it however you like, they are bad people, took shortcuts, nobody likes them, blah blah blah. We would kill for that record and their success right about now. That is all that matters. The moral high horse some are taking when discussing the absolutely dirty business of college sports is laughable.

2 for 1s are awful, I’ll hang up a listen.

Expansion / OCS

Winning the AAC (most years) will give us the opportunity to play a high level P5 in a game that matters. That is what we need.. and to win those games.

Pretty much the result of what happens when you waste an opportunity like we had with the BE. We had every opportunity to "Do Something" and separate ourselves, but we could never put it all together. Like it or not, c is now at the top of the G5 mountain and seem to have taken advantage of every opportunity presented.

Same old conversation. c. florida has done just about everything right and the timing, which is really out of their control, has been perfect. They look like a program that is a number one pick for P5 conference looking to expand. I used to think it was just about winning, but that is over simplistic. It is about winning the right games, not the P5 games, but the CC games that lead to the access bowl games, that is what gets attention. No one really cares that G5 programs occasionally beat P5 programs, it happens every year. They have had a combination of good coaching hires that have utilized their talent to maximum efficiency. They sell out their stadium (yes the OCS is a big deal, always has been, always will be), fan support is off the charts, the city supports them, College Gameday going there was a gut punch. CCS was right, they are the blueprint. We can learn from them and hopefully do it better.

A little late to the party, but this is the best decision we have made in the last three years.

The Florida transfer?

I think your comment is off here. I hire people all of the time and University Perception is a thing. Most people have “heard” of a University based on athletics, i.e. does your university show up on ESPN? Unless you are attending an Ivy League or a very specific field where a university is known for a particular program of study, no hiring manager cares about the difference between academics of say USF or Florida. So yes, attending a university that has a positive athletic program is very marketable, especially if that program has a national following. It is smart to consider such things and quality athletics adds to the value of your degree, period.

Feel like this post comes around every couple of years at a minimum.