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"It was my idea to switch the offense. I thought we finally have the personnel to do it and it is the best way for us to win," Taggart said. "I am not worried about my job, that would be unfair to the kids. It would be selfish and I am not a selfish guy. We expect a big improvement this year. How many wins I don't know, but more than last year." The Bulls were 4-8 last year and 2-10 in the first season under Taggart. Their offense was ranked 118th out of 125 FBS schools last season and 121st in 2013. Kinnan says those stats mean absolutely nothing. "That is in the past and we can't look back. We are morphing into a different football team with a different offensive philosophy because we have a different type of personnel here," Kinnan said. "Look at TCU. In 2013, they were 4-8 and ranked 104th in total offense. In 2014, they were 12-1 and ranked fifth." Certainly falls in the realm of "anything is possible." It is mainly coach speak, what else do we expect them to say? I imagine if you gave them a truth pill it would be something like this: CWT, why did you change your offense? - My boss said we play boring football and if we are going to lose we better have 21 points on the board at a minimum and we will not have many 21 point games with the offense I wanted to run. CWT, are you worried about your job? - That is a stupid question, of coarse I am worried. I have been saying the same thing for three off seasons and I am out of excuses. I would like more time but this a make or break season for me, bowl game or I am out. If we lose against FAMU I may not be here toward the end of the season. Kinnan, you said going 6-18 over the last two years and being ranked almost at the very bottom of FBS offenses means nothing, do you really believe that? - No, but I did find one example, TCU, to give the fan base hope. I have no reasonable expectation that we will all of a sudden be ranked in the top half of FBS offenses, but I can't say that. The silver lining for me is that if I do show a solid improvement, I may have a head coaching job next year.

Why dont you think we will learn much? I feel like we only have had glimpses during training camp. I think in a game situation we should be able to see if QF has progressed from last year. I also don't want to see a repeat of last year where CWT stuck with MW even when it was clear he needed to sit. I guess my "we will not learn much" line was meant to point out that if QF dose well, some, myself included, will point out that FAMU is an FCS team. If he does poorly, some, myself included, will point out that it is his first start, give him time. I will try to reserve any judgment, good or bad, until the completion of game 3.

USF Head Coach Willie Taggart has named sophomore Quinton Flowers (Miami) the Bulls’ starting quarterback for the season opener Sept. 5 vs. Florida A&M. That game kicks off at 7:00 p.m. in Raymond James Stadium and will be broadcast live on ESPN3 and the USF/IMG radio network. Tells me what I thought all along. No QB has been good enough to be named the starter. I hope we don't start this week to week nonsense. QF will get his shot to play QB; however, I doubt we will learn much from the FAMU game.

Almost like watching at home.

Hurry, somebody say "Your Momma"!

Also, another thing on qf. I don't have the link anymore but he was a "big get" for cwt. However, qf's decession came down to a school that actually said he could play QB. I believe that most of the high offers he had were not looking at him as a QB. Thus, cwt needed a QB and promised the 4 star kid he could play QB. Qf, is a great athlete but maybe not the great QB we thought he could be.

No matter what cwt says, he is worried about his job and that will effect this decession. I still think that qf is not ready or he would be named already. For those that think aw would be the starter if the waiver comes through, well that also speaks volumes about qf's lack of ability. I still believe that Bench will be starting at some point. If cwt starts flowers then pulls him, I will officially be done with cwt. qf needs a fare shake. Qf should have stayed the starter last year but cwt needed wins. He still brags about his 2014 win total as improvement.

Is this where we start trashing Joey Knight again for reporting facts?

I am sure the answer is there somewhere, but don't really get why UCF gets to pay them $1000 more than we are, about.

Here I was thinking that we were going to be listed. Then I saw Florida and knew that we were not actually relevant enough to be mentioned in this ridiculous article. I am sure this will fire up some fan basses.

I hear ya. Even if he does come, he has missed all of camp and probably would not start anyway. If he is able to start after missing camp, we are in bigger trouble than we think.

So true. At least it will look better now on TV.

That's only one variable. Maybe we should measure when one isn't having the best years in their history and the other, the worst years ... That's our fault. So maybe we should wait until we are good again to start measuring anything? Would that make you feel better? It is what it is. We are in the same conference now. How can you have a rivalry when you don't play? Don't know, but if we were not, you are really trying to sell that we have this crazy rivalry after only two games? Ok, but that does not pass the reasonable persons standards. No, they've been a rival for those two years, since we've started playing them in meaningful games. Yeah, yeah, I drank this kool-aid too. Rivalries are not created in two years, if this was so, we would be talking smack about Miami and not UCF all the time. We were obviously rivals before this. It's ok, I did not like it either, but you will realize this one day as well. Wait, so to you they've apparently ALWAYS been our rival but you don't acknowledge our 4 wins ...... Interesting. Not interesting, and no, I did not always think they were always our rival, but I do now. And heck yeah I count those wins but none of those wins took place while they were in the same conference, like the stats you quoted from me. So in the context of things taking place while we were in the same conference, no, I would not count them.

Not a good sign, but we have seen this before.

Why should the last two matter to him? If CWT wins this year, Allen is his coach for the near future. CWT loses, there's likely a new guy for the rest of his eligibility. I agree. Who cares what Texas was or wasn't for him. He's looking forward and so should we. I am amazed that we get all of these transfers. I don't know what that means perception wise, but I will take it 8 days a week.

Well DUH! We were in a power 5 conference playing power 5 teams. They were in freaking Conference USA playing the likes of Tulsa and Southern Miss. All of this **** measuring with UCF can only be done when all the variables are the same, meaning, since we have been in the same conference. For years they came at us with this rivalry notion that we (USF Fans) consistently stated that there was no such rivalry. Now, only two years in, it is apparent that they have been and will be our only real rival EVER! We tried hard to make it work with Miami but they treated us like we treated UCF. Here is how it plays out for those who are keeping score. Head to head 0-2 (UCF), BCS Bowls won - 1(UCF), conference championships won 2 (UCF).

They haven't had a winning season in 6 years but still whooped us. Its also amazing how they get such great OOC games, although most are away. The last 5 years they have played Meatchicken St twice, Gayturds twice, Auburn twice, Bama twice, Canes twice, Nebraska, Texas, AND USF twice!!! It is much easier for a school like FAU to get good OOC games. USF is viewed as dangerous team. The FIUs and FAUs of the world are almost looked at like FCS opponents, USF is not.

It's a good add when you look at the schedule as a whole. FAU will put butts in seats and is an easy travel away game. I am not sure why everyone is complaining. Would you rather schedule Charleston Southern?

We honestly should be grateful for all the casual fans we do have that are coming out right now, but the real reason I'm commenting is that the club/lounge area at RayJay isn't the cause for the "snoozer" atmosphere. The football being played is. We get that corrected, and a club/lounge area will be the least of our concerns because we'll have a vibrant, exciting team to watch. Dead on ..... If we were playing in an erector set on campus these last 3 years, as hard as it is to imagine, the attendance would have been worse. And just to clarify, I think there are very few on here that wouldn't like an ocs but until some heavy hitters out there really want one, it's not happening .... unless something convinces the powers that be that we NEED one. One thing Harlan has recognized is that when the time comes, he wants to do it right. Doesn't mean a RayJay clone but I assume somewhere between that and the BHNFP ... It is hard to imagine. Is there really a belief out there that RayJay is the reason attendance is as good as it is? This is where I think we perhaps miss the impact and draw of bringing alumni back to campus. I think attendance would be higher right now. You might get double the students and more alumni.

I always thought that FAU had a sweet stadium. Wonder what the price tag was.

Probably, judging from the average post. However, I doubt our opinions will come in to play much when the decision makers of such things debate. Regardless, as some other have mentioned, an OCS college game day experience blows the pro stadium experience out of the water 8 days a week.

Agree. I don't care about UCF's stadium (in general) I went there once for the 2013 game. I thought it was fine. Was it RJS? No. Would I be fine with UCF's stadium as an on campus venue for us, absolutely! Like Namuh said, build a bowl that students can walk to and brings fans back to campus, other than that, who really cares? You simply cannot replicate the college experience in a pro stadium as they are really designed for an entirely different demographic, not to mention a different team. My point was that most times it seems that the general reasoning for not wanting a modestly priced stadium is because UCF did that. Well, guess what, they keep expanding theirs and by the time we get around to it, we may be priced out of building something like theirs any way. If I recall, they built theirs back in 07. If they paid 50 mil back then, it would probably cost 75mil today. Like I said, I was there in 2013, never been there before or since. We got there about three hours early, walked around, saw a bunch of stuff. That is when I became really done with not having an OCS. It has little to do with UCF but more to do with the experience of an on campus game day feel. UCF felt like a college game, and sorry, USF at RJS does not. You know what is sad. I have been to UCF's campus one more time in the last three years than USF's. Why else do fans have a reason to go back to campus? UCFs campus was nice, looked like a resort style little city, the whole marching to the stadium thing they did seemed fun for the UCF'ers and the tailgating was pretty awesome. USF needs all of that, not because it is UCF, but because this is college football, USF's campus needs college football. Yes, I agree, it needs to be done right. Namuh's requirements above are all that is needed: 1 - Bowl shape 2- Designed for expansion (starting at 40+) 3- Be on campus Steps 1-3 will make it done right, everything else is not important.

I was there last year. I have been to several high school stadiums that were better built and more comfortable to watch a game in. If USF builds an abomination like that, I'll not go to games. I was there for the 2013 game. We should have won, they got lucky. That being said, saying a high school stadium is better than C. Florida's stadium is silly. I wish USF could at least start with something like that. I would rather take the kiddos to the campus than explain why we have a pirate ship. Although, the kiddos love the pirate ship. Not even a little bit silly. There are plenty of high school stadiums in the state that are far better than UCF's stadium. That isn't even counting the stadiums in Texas. Silly in the sense that most of the very "nice" high school stadiums that you are referring to seat well under 20k, most not even that. I am not sure what the difference is between sitting on metal bleachers vs. concrete bleachers. The stadium you referenced is not filled with seatbacks. At any rate, C.Florida's stadium seats like 40k+ and when I re-watched the game from 2013, I could not even see the seats or tell that the stadium was metal because IT WAS FULL! I have watched these OCS threads go back and forth, same arguments, nothing really new. However, I am still amazed at the amount of fans that would rather not have an OCS at all vs. a reasonable steel structure that we can grow and expand with. I think we get C. Florida on the brain too much (because every thing they do must suck and we can't be like them) and do not realize that a large number of power 5 schools have the same exact steel stadiums with different facades. So instead we start talking about pro amenities, recliners (really), and the like. Do we realize that there are only 7 D1 college programs that share a stadium with an NFL team (thanks google) and that only two of them, Pitt and Miami, are in a power 5 league? Sure we can look back to WVU game and say things like "It did not matter back then" but it did, winning has a way of covering other issues. We are the ones that don't look like the other kids, we are the great minority, not those programs with metal stadiums. What we see as a strength is simply not. So yea, lets sit back and biotch about not getting an OCS because it must be prettier than C. Florida while we enjoy red seats and a pirate ship, especially nice for the ECU games (vomit). Traveling down Dale Mabry to 1 Buc Place will never compare to the on campus experience, regardless of the material used to make the structure.

I think most agree with you ... unless by "on-campus college atmosphere" you mean aluminum bench seating and chain link fencing. Trip, as I don't think you have been to UCF BHNS recently ( or ever maybe), but my wife and I have individual seats, a cup holder, I can bring my adult drink to me seat...and about two years ago, UCF requested additional Cell towers near the stadium so data is no longer an issue. Come to a game, rather than speculate. I'll buy the before game beers and snacks. I was there last year. I have been to several high school stadiums that were better built and more comfortable to watch a game in. If USF builds an abomination like that, I'll not go to games. I was there for the 2013 game. We should have won, they got lucky. That being said, saying a high school stadium is better than C. Florida's stadium is silly. I wish USF could at least start with something like that. I would rather take the kiddos to the campus than explain why we have a pirate ship. Although, the kiddos love the pirate ship.

Is this real or photo shop?