slick1ru2 Posted October 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Showing how much more their grads make in the real world vs the rest of the top 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted October 19, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Showing how much more their grads make in the real world vs the rest of the top 25. VERY VERY misleading statistic. But I doubt many football players would even think, or care, why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted October 19, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Not misleading at all, its a study of average starting salaries of their grads. And if they are offering, then that player is smart enough to know that there is life beyond football and a Stanford degree is worth a lot in today's market. http://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-recruiting-letter-2014-10 Edited October 19, 2014 by slick1ru2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted October 19, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Photoshopping recruits onto magazine covers, now that's a dumb recruiting stunt. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/kim-kardashian-wake-forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted October 20, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Not misleading at all, its a study of average starting salaries of their grads. And if they are offering, then that player is smart enough to know that there is life beyond football and a Stanford degree is worth a lot in today's market. http://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-recruiting-letter-2014-10 It is misleadng because not all universities ofer the same programs Some universities lead toward engineering others may focus more on liberal arts. Obviously the universities with which lead toward higher earning degrees with have a higher average salary as a whole. And MOST football players do not major in these "high paying programs" anyway. Take for example Ga Tech, a, engineering focused institution. 70% of their football players major in Management. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=6932700 Graduating from a degree in Computer Engineering Stanford is looked at way different (and payed different) than someone graduating with Liberal Arts or Mass Com. In fact some of the "lesser" degree programs of research institutions, even Ivy League schools, may be perceived lower than instate public universities. Another issue us that most "standard" university students are local, and tend to stay local after graduation. Example, most USF, UF, UCF, etc students are from Florida, and tend to stay in Florida after graduation. How this misleads is that the average salary of students in high CoL areas will of course be higher than those in low CoL, even though the purchase power of of the 2 different salaries can be the same. Here's a comparable list of where they obtain their numbers: http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/full-list-of-schools You can sort by ranking, region, etc. For example, take a look at the rankings of USF #516 ($39,700), UCF #546 ($39,500) in low CoL Florida. Compare to Sonoma State University.. a small commuter public liberal arts university 50 miles north of San Fransisco California (higher CoL) with an acceptance rate of 90.2%(!!!) is ranked at that list at 417 ($44,200) Salary means nothing if you don't factor in cost of living. /rant ..People who obviously and purposely use misleading stats annoy me at times. I wont get anymore into that topic or else it may/will devolve into MadCow-ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestBull Posted October 20, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 61 Content Count: 2,352 Reputation: 694 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Not misleading at all, its a study of average starting salaries of their grads. And if they are offering, then that player is smart enough to know that there is life beyond football and a Stanford degree is worth a lot in today's market.http://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-recruiting-letter-2014-10 It is misleadng because not all universities ofer the same programs Some universities lead toward engineering others may focus more on liberal arts. Obviously the universities with which lead toward higher earning degrees with have a higher average salary as a whole. And MOST football players do not major in these "high paying programs" anyway. Take for example Ga Tech, a, engineering focused institution. 70% of their football players major in Management.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=6932700 Graduating from a degree in Computer Engineering Stanford is looked at way different (and payed different) than someone graduating with Liberal Arts or Mass Com. In fact some of the "lesser" degree programs of research institutions, even Ivy League schools, may be perceived lower than instate public universities. Another issue us that most "standard" university students are local, and tend to stay local after graduation. Example, most USF, UF, UCF, etc students are from Florida, and tend to stay in Florida after graduation. How this misleads is that the average salary of students in high CoL areas will of course be higher than those in low CoL, even though the purchase power of of the 2 different salaries can be the same. Here's a comparable list of where they obtain their numbers:http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/full-list-of-schools You can sort by ranking, region, etc. For example, take a look at the rankings of USF #516 ($39,700), UCF #546 ($39,500) in low CoL Florida. Compare to Sonoma State University.. a small commuter public liberal arts university 50 miles north of San Fransisco California (higher CoL) with an acceptance rate of 90.2%(!!!) is ranked at that list at 417 ($44,200) Salary means nothing if you don't factor in cost of living. /rant ..People who obviously and purposely use misleading stats annoy me at times. I wont get anymore into that topic or else it may/will devolve into MadCow-ness Good point. It also says 15 years after graduation, so not a study on starting salaries. So we are essentially talking about salaries of 37/38 year olds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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