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[Triple B]

2 World Championships. And to win it all you have to beat the best from the AL. Nice try Trip.

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Posted by: flsportsfan83 Posted on: Yesterday at 1:29pm

the Marlins seem to do okay spending very little. If you have the management that can put a team together you will be okay.

When you won the World Series, you weren't  "spending very little". You're doing kind of okay THIS year, spending very little, because the NL sucks, overall.

when we won in 03 our payroll was near the bottom

Link?

[flsportsfan83]

I surprised you wont take my word. How big of a baseball fan are you? You dont remember the stories about the Might Yankees having 3x's the payroll?

[flsportsfan83]

Baseball payrolls by average annual value as of July 15 (and reflecting the Yankees-Mets trade of July 16) as compiled by the commissioner's office for luxury tax purposes and obtained by The Associated Press.

Payrolls are for 40-man rosters and include averages of multiyear contracts plus $7,552,271 to cover health and pension benefits; clubs medical costs; insurance; workman's compensation, payroll, unemployment and Social Security taxes; spring training allowances; meal and tip money; All-Star game expenses; travel and moving expenses; postseason pay; and college scholarships.

The projected luxury tax is assessed at a rate of 17 percent on the amount above $117 million. The actual luxury tax will be assessed on the final payroll after the season.

Team                 Payroll                  Tax  

New York Yankees   $180,322,403            10,764,809

New York Mets       116,253,927                  0

Los Angeles         109,248,680                  0

Texas               106,277,880                  0

Boston              104,873,607                  0

Atlanta             103,912,011                  0

St. Louis           101,825,848                  0

San Francisco       100,061,211              0

Philadelphia         95,338,704                  0

Arizona              92,665,040                  0

Seattle              92,268,063                    0

Chicago Cubs         86,576,763              0

Anaheim              83,235,098                0

Houston              79,946,964                  0

Colorado             78,738,492                  0

Baltimore            75,502,154                  0

Chicago White Sox    71,336,029                  0

Minnesota            65,318,977                0

Cincinnati           65,083,196                  0

Florida              63,281,152                  0

Pittsburgh           62,314,723                  0

Toronto              61,175,638                  0

Detroit              59,006,941                  0

Cleveland            58,108,824                  0

San Diego            57,871,722                0

Oakland              56,596,691                  0

Kansas City          48,475,322                0

Milwaukee            47,294,226                0

Montreal             45,853,889                  0

Tampa Bay            31,660,602              0

Total            2,400,424,777              0

http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0721/1583823.html

[Joe]

Not true my friend, the Rays actually make more money then the Red Sux and Yankees.  New ownership has said they are gonna spend money this offseason.  This season has been promising at times.  We have won 7 out of 10 gameagainst the Sux at home this year so we can compete with them and we killed the Yankees last year.  We will compete with a little money put into our bullpen and a starting pitcher.

Your kidding right? The Yankees sold over 2 Billion in merchandise worldwide last year. The Red Sox were around 750M. The Devil Rays are lucky if they are selling part of that. The Devil Rays do make money, because of the MLB small market kickbacks, the Pirates will make almost $20 Million this season off of it. However, those numbers don't reflect the money the team is making of merchandise, etc.

The Devil Rays will NEVER compete year in and out in the AL East unless they start spending. There is too much money in the division with NY, Boston and Baltimore and Toronto have shown the willingness to spend if they have to.

I'm a Rays fan, but the reality is they are stuck in the worst division to be in if your a small market team.

[flsportsfan83]

why is Tampa a small market?

[flsportsfan83]

marlins suck, NL sucks, rays suck....

teams like boston and new york should be a model for TB and FL....they buy championships...NY will win it all this yearg

83, stop bashing Tampa all the time...like another poster said, you have a "UCF" like obsession with Tampa....

Ok Smart ass. How many championships does Boston have in the last 50 years?

[flsportsfan83]

and how many does Florida have?

[Triple B]

Baseball payrolls by average annual value as of July 15 (and reflecting the Yankees-Mets trade of July 16) as compiled by the commissioner's office for luxury tax purposes and obtained by The Associated Press.

Payrolls are for 40-man rosters and include averages of multiyear contracts plus $7,552,271 to cover health and pension benefits; clubs medical costs; insurance; workman's compensation, payroll, unemployment and Social Security taxes; spring training allowances; meal and tip money; All-Star game expenses; travel and moving expenses; postseason pay; and college scholarships.

The projected luxury tax is assessed at a rate of 17 percent on the amount above $117 million. The actual luxury tax will be assessed on the final payroll after the season.

Team                 Payroll                  Tax  

New York Yankees   $180,322,403            10,764,809

New York Mets       116,253,927                  0

Los Angeles         109,248,680                  0

Texas               106,277,880                  0

Boston              104,873,607                  0

Atlanta             103,912,011                  0

St. Louis           101,825,848                  0

San Francisco       100,061,211              0

Philadelphia         95,338,704                  0

Arizona              92,665,040                  0

Seattle              92,268,063                    0

Chicago Cubs         86,576,763              0

Anaheim              83,235,098                0

Houston              79,946,964                  0

Colorado             78,738,492                  0

Baltimore            75,502,154                  0

Chicago White Sox    71,336,029                  0

Minnesota            65,318,977                0

Cincinnati           65,083,196                  0

Florida              63,281,152                  0

Pittsburgh           62,314,723                  0

Toronto              61,175,638                  0

Detroit              59,006,941                  0

Cleveland            58,108,824                  0

San Diego            57,871,722                0

Oakland              56,596,691                  0

Kansas City          48,475,322                0

Milwaukee            47,294,226                0

Montreal             45,853,889                  0

Tampa Bay            31,660,602              0

Total            2,400,424,777              0

http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0721/1583823.html

Nice job ...... I take back the comparison to Kanigit fans...... and no, I'm not a real big baseball fan.  

[alau255]

according to this article the Yankees lost a lot of money in 2005.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2247401

Trust me i'm not saying that the Devil Ryas will win with the payroll they have and I would love to be like the Yankees and buy players and win but I know that will not happen.  I am still trying to find the actual report from Forbes that show the Rays making more but obviously if the Yankees lost this much the Rays made some more money then them.  I just hope that with the talent we have in the minors we can be like the Marlins and have everyone fill their role and come up to the majors and succeed.

Not true my friend, the Rays actually make more money then the Red Sux and Yankees.  New ownership has said they are gonna spend money this offseason.  This season has been promising at times.  We have won 7 out of 10 gameagainst the Sux at home this year so we can compete with them and we killed the Yankees last year.  We will compete with a little money put into our bullpen and a starting pitcher.

Your kidding right? The Yankees sold over 2 Billion in merchandise worldwide last year. The Red Sox were around 750M. The Devil Rays are lucky if they are selling part of that. The Devil Rays do make money, because of the MLB small market kickbacks, the Pirates will make almost $20 Million this season off of it. However, those numbers don't reflect the money the team is making of merchandise, etc.

The Devil Rays will NEVER compete year in and out in the AL East unless they start spending. There is too much money in the division with NY, Boston and Baltimore and Toronto have shown the willingness to spend if they have to.

I'm a Rays fan, but the reality is they are stuck in the worst division to be in if your a small market team.