___ Eats It Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Per Game Stats for Major Offensive CategoriesTed Williams vs. Barry BondsAt BatsTed: 3.36Barry: 3.39RunsTed: 0.78Barry: 0.75HitsTed: 1.15Barry: 1.012BTed: 0.23Barry: 0.203BTed: 0.030Barry: 0.028HRTed: .227Barry: .256RBITed: .802Barry: .678Bases on BallsTed: .881Barry: .805StrikeoutsTed: .309Barry: .539WOW! If you look at the items in bold, those are the only categories in which Barry Bonds has been more productive than Ted Williams. The only thing Barry is more adept at than Ted was is hitting home runs.Statistical proof that Ted was a better ballplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Per Game Stats for Major Offensive CategoriesTed Williams vs. Barry BondsAt BatsTed:  3.36Barry:  3.39RunsTed:  0.78Barry:  0.75HitsTed:  1.15Barry:  1.012BTed:  0.23Barry:  0.203BTed:  0.030Barry:  0.028HRTed:  .227Barry:  .256RBITed:  .802Barry:  .678Bases on BallsTed:  .881Barry:  .805StrikeoutsTed:  .309Barry:  .539WOW!  If you look at the items in bold, those are the only categories in which Barry Bonds has been more productive than Ted Williams.  The only thing Barry is more adept at than Ted was is hitting home runs.Statistical proof that Ted was a better ballplayer.Great job UEI as that is a much better comparison and Teddy still is better player even missing almost 4 full prime seasons. Can you imagine what the numbers would look like if he didnt go fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Remember, Smazza...."numbers don't lie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Ted would have been the all-time home run champ if he didn't go fight.He had 521 already and averaged .227 home runs per game. If he didn't miss those 650+ games, you could tack on another 150 home runs to that total, putting him at 671. That's if he just kept up his career AVERAGE of 36 per season. In the prime of his career, you figure he's good for 10-15 more per season.Tack on 50 more dingers, and Teddy's your all time homer champ.God, I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 26, 2004 his numbers are staggeringthe most dominating player in ateam sport everPlease look at the statistical comparison between a man who could wear the same flight helmet in both wars he fought in to the big headed freak that had to have all his doorways widened at his house so his could squeeze his head inside the house. In a related note Alcor says they have a place waiting for Barry's head when he dies but they will have to charge him double due to the size of that **** beach ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshiznitz Posted April 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted April 27, 2004 First UEI, even if you give Ted those 150 HR's and tack on 50, that would only give him 721, well short of Aarons 755. Second Teddy really didnt have a "prime" in his career considering he batted .327 with 131R, 31HR and 145 RBI's in his rookie year. Career seasons bestAverageWilliams .406Bonds .370HRWilliams 43Bonds 73SLG %Williams .735Bonds .863OB %Williams .526Bonds .582OPSWilliams 1.287Bonds 1.381BB'sWilliams 162Bonds 198SB'sWiliams 4Bonds 52MVP'sWilliams 2Bonds 6Yeah I can #'s come out the other way too. I also find it funny that you throw SB's out of the major offensive category, why is that? Final point, comparing stats from different eras is useless. Bonds plays in smaller parks, Williams played in a league virtually void of minorities nor had to deal with closers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 bonds 0-1 3 BBs .500i will analyize data and respondbut you canot say if ted would have had 5 yearsmays missed 32 years,played in pitchingg era and in toughest park to hitaaron played in easist park to hitif you look at numbers bonds has done far more things than ted W.bullshtz post demonstrates that fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 27, 2004 bonds 0-1  3 BBs  .500i will analyize data and respondbut you canot say if ted would have had 5 yearsmays missed 32 years,played in pitchingg era and in toughest park to hitaaron played in easist park to hitif you look at numbers bonds has done far more things than ted W.bullshtz post demonstrates that factHow did mays miss 32 years? If you are saying he missed 3 years I say no he didnt. He missed most of two seasons and they were a year after his rookie season, not exactly his prime. If Ted Williams played in yankee stadium he would have hit 800 hrs. Mays played in pitching era? What did Teddy play in? Bonds plays in small park, juiced ball, juiced body, watered down pitching era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted April 27, 2004 First UEI, even if you give Ted those 150 HR's and tack on 50, that would only give him 721, well short of Aarons 755. Second Teddy really didnt have a "prime" in his career considering he batted .327 with 131R, 31HR and 145 RBI's in his rookie year. Yeah I can #'s come out the other way too.  I also find it funny that you throw SB's out of the major offensive category, why is that? Final point, comparing stats from different eras is useless.  Bonds plays in smaller parks, Williams played in a league virtually void of minorities nor had to deal with closers. I dont think he threw out SB's he just conceded that category. SB's were not a big part of the game when Ted played. Where are all the career sb guys? They all played from 60's on. I would say Ted's best year was 1951 when he hit .343, 150 R, 43 hr, 159 rbi, 162 BB. He went to war for most of next two years. He batted .406 two years before he went to WW II. He missed almost 4 Full prime seasons. He played on some pathetic teams and still put up huge numbers. As far as MVP's go you cant really argue that since Ted was on a pathetic team. He won triple crown and didnt win MVP and batted .406 and didnt win MVP. Also, take Bonds numbers from the year before he juiced 73 HRS and go backwards over his whole career and he is a great player but nothing special. He has been juicing since his 73 HR year and his numbers are off the chart. he never came close in his entire career to what he has done since then and he did that after playing in the league for 15 years? How many guys reach their true power at age 35? I think he is a cheater and his numbers exploded when he started cheating and my bet is it happened the year before he hit 73 when he hit 49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted April 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 First UEI, even if you give Ted those 150 HR's and tack on 50, that would only give him 721, well short of Aarons 755Aaron didn't hold the record in 1960, when Ted retired, so he WOULD have been the all time HR champ.I never said he wouldn't be passed up at some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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