Bullshiznitz Posted May 29, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Finally found an unbiased Bonds message on ESPN....had to post it.... "This post illustrates the vast ignorance/bias/stupidity on both sides of the argument. First of all, any Bonds supporter who says that steroids will not provide an advantage is ignorant or delusional. Of course it will. If you take somebody who is one of the premiere BB players of all time and increase his power output by, let's say, 10%, you have a monster. On the other hand, Bonds haters resort to complete lies and unsubstantiated B.S. to make their point. He did NOT put on 35 pounds in a year. Complete lie. Anabolics do NOT improve your eyesight, or lead to significant skin color changes. Show me one respectable scientific link proving otherwise. And, as a former competitive powerlifter who is very familiar with the benefits and side effects, do not hit me with the B.S., "If you would know anything about steroids...". You are spouting crud when you say things like this. Finally, to take knee surgery and resulting infection on a 40 year old athlete as 'proof' of steroids is simply laughable" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S p e n c e Posted May 29, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,267 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Good post for the most part, however I dont believe that you can use this statement as an argument on either side.Anabolics do NOT improve your eyesight, or lead to significant skin color changes. Show me one respectable scientific link proving otherwiseI could counter with "show me one respectable scientific link that disproves it." The fact is that scientific proof doesnt really exist because you cannot perform experiements on a human being. So someone saying steroids does improve eyesight is just as ignorant a statement as someone saying it doesn't improve eyesight. Both in fact have no idea or scientific data to back up thier claims. The only ones who would know for sure would be the steroid users themselves I presume, and I don't believe they will be telling us anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted June 1, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted June 1, 2005 i am looking fo drugs to make me a better lawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted June 1, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted June 1, 2005 i am looking fo drugs to make me a better lawyerWe all are. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted June 1, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted June 1, 2005 i am looking fo drugs to make me a better lawyerSee if you can find some to make you a better speller, too. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted June 1, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted June 1, 2005 That is a good post. I never remember anyone talking about skin color or eyesight. I always talked about muscle mass, head size, and power.I don't know what his weight was before the steroids, but it isn't absurd to say he was over 35 lbs lighter. That might not have all happened in 1 year, but it did happen. He's probably 80-100 lbs heavier now than he was as a Pirate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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