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Willie and CJL are going to relish on stepping on our throats next season, they have more talent then we do right now and Willie isn’t as bad of a coach as some of those on this board will have you think. We always whittle bed against the triple option. How big of a step back are Cincy and Houston taking? The first 4 aren’t locks either. This feels a lot like CWTs first year with an win or two somewhere..

I’ve referred to it as “South Florida” or “University of South Florida” since I moved back to the west coast in 09. Got tired of hearing people say “Oh San Francisco” or even once University of Sioux Falls that I decided I’d stop inviting the conversation. Hell I even have some people who should know I went to USF(and I thought they did) talk to me about UCiF games every once in a while. It was really weird to hear about how we beat Lane Kiffen, from a USC fan that still holds a grudge, the Monday following our Georgia Tech loss.

Wait, I thought Chucks game day coaching was all that was bad and CJS was going to win 10+ games this? All kidding aside, I agree going .500 and to a bowl game would be amazing this year. It’s much easier to watch USF sports when you don’t have unrealistic expectations...

BJ and its not close for me. I love Q but, BJ could have been great here. Tough luck coming in for @mgrothe8in CJL’s last season before getting Holtzed. Q had Charlie for a year, BJ had Holtz for 3 years, after showing some much promise in ‘09. Imagine BJ in Willies system....

Good for SJ. Dude is a legend north of the border. Hope he can ball out in the XFL. The Seattle vs Tampa game will probably be the only game I sit down and watch to completion in this league. Lot of story lines for me; hometown vs my college town, BJ and SJ vs QF. Guess I know what I am doing Saturday at 2...

I feel like this is one of those, if you have to ask you already know the answer situation. `I’m following this thread to see if Q gets in, otherwise the probably not worth it.

Oh **** it XFL weekend? And here I’m playing Madden until the Clippers game starts....

I drafted FA is probably a better situation than being drafted 7th round.

Makes sense, no wonder the team hasn’t mentioned the cooch yet today...

Maybe CJS turned the fax machine off before he sent it over?

Good for Willie and his son. Hope it works out better than when my dad coached my little league team.... Then again my dad is a softie and took the kids no one else would and actually played them(aside from myself, my brother and a friend who was good). Hard to have a winning team when you have a kid who was even afraid of the ball while playing Ken Griffey Baseball at team parties....

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold your horses, just because softball lost to their own coach and team USA 3-0 doesn’t mean they and women’s soccer are ready to concede the title as USF‘a premier sport.

Feels weird that he’s going to be playing(at least currently practicing) on the field I played on in HS.... Hope he rebounds after the injury last year.

Good for him. May he be successful at Howard and gain some great experience so that he may be our next HC when CJS jumps to the P5.

Got a kicker.

*if ground is broken.

Ummmm... UNLV has legal weed too... Sorry the next game that is close enough for me to drive to is BYU, I still have my tickets that I personally have not sat in since 2009 but **** I could use a game close by. Y'all in Tampa don't know how good you have it...

Finkel is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkel...

To an extent I think they would make a logical addition, but only if the AAC expands west. While they may not be a powerhouse football school they are easily accessible. Las Vegas being a major tourist destination aids in away fans having cheap destination, and aside from a couple smaller markets(Tulsa) most can even catch a direct flight to McCarran. The new stadium makes it ideal for visiting fans to get to and from the game as opposed to Sam Boyd(20-30 min from the Strip) which is in the SE corner of the valley, sort of down by my house, now it'll be a quick jaunt over an overpass from the south end of the Strip. The school itself is a year younger than USF so a lot of their graduates leave the are upon completion so the alumni base isn't great but for those like me who don't care about the Raiders or are being priced out of Raiders tickets(like Knights tickets, who saw a huge increase for next years pricing but are still selling strong) you will see residents showing up to UNLV games again this year. It's similar to the Vegas Lights and Aviators games, your everyday resident can afford to go, this has given those minor league teams a boost in support. For example the Lights in year two last season drew close to capacity crowds(all locals) while finishing 13th out of 18th (2019) and 15th out of 16th(2018) respectively, the same should happen for UNLV(probably not capacity though) with increased visiting fan support now that there is a prime location for games. Vegas also hosts 4 conference's basketball tournaments and will be hosting 2 conference championship games starting next season, including the PAC 12. The town already gets the entertainment dollar and is ready to get the sports dollar as well, both MLB and the NBA are seriously considering the market with the Diamondbacks doing a feasibility study as recently as last summer in regards to a potential move. The drawbacks for UNLV joining in all sports are the same ones you'll get with any west coast school, that is a lot of traveling for non revenue sports to go back east. This can be remedied with splitting into divisions and scheduling for 1 long cross country road trip a year. The media market would put it smack dab in the middle of the conference in terms of market size and I personally think the only knock on the in expansion is the quality on the field, but as USF fans I don't think that we have a right to knock other programs quality, especially when their facilities(new football only facility just opened and Allegiant Stadium is a huge upgrade over Sam Boyd). One last thing I'd like to point out is the directed to the "There is so much to do in Vegas no one wants to spend their Saturday people would rather be somewhere else" crowd. Us locals don't go to the Strip, I've been twice in 3 years, both times family or friends were in town, we try and avoid a lot of the things that make Vegas a big draw to others, the Lights for example play almost exclusively at 7:30 pm on Saturday nights from March-October and still draw near capacity at falling apart Cashman Field. Expect a newer and more centralized stadium to see an influx of support(imagine making the drive from USF to Ray Jay but instead of being in Ray Jay you were sitting in the Birmingham Bowl).

Agreed to the extent of novelty wearing off but I think they have staying power too. Our minor league teams currently out draw professional teams in other markets. Vegas is sports crazed right now, sure the average will trend back towards the mean but the thing I didn’t understand as an outsider when I moved here 3 years ago is that residents are more apt than o support due to all the leagues telling them they couldn’t have a team for so long due to gambling concerns made the base pretty rabid.

No In the terms that everyone of their games have been sold out since it’s inception and nose bleeds will run you $200. Not comparing products on the field at all, nor have I once in this thread. Something about those in a glass house comes to mind. I’m just pointing out that, again we average over 9,000 in an 11,000 stadium for second tier soccer that’s been **** since day 1. I will bet anyone that UNLV has a higher attendance than USF next year, regardless of product on the field.

You obviously haven’t paid attention to the Golden Knights and their attendance. Even out 2 year old USL Soccer team who hasn’t finished better than 12th averages about 9,000 a game. A lot of people, myself included bought UNLV tickets because just like the Knights the Raiders are pricing normal folks out. Factor in all of the traveling fans with east access and UNLV in the new stadium will out draw USF attendance wise.

I’m sorry, were you talking about UNLV or USF when talking about football and basketball programs? Never said they were bringing quality on the field to the table, much like some of the teams already in the conference. Don’t hate at the potential for me to get a home game every now and then now that your home game left the conference

Works for me, gives me 3 drive-able games, 1 of which a little over a mile from the office. Sign me up!