... is that we've been in a conference for 10 years and never finished higher than 3rd.
Are you related to Holtz? Somewhere you think you are the voice of reason and all I am hearing is your undying love for Holtz. It is really frustrating when some us are venting and you come across like the rest of us are idiots. Please take a step back and reflect on what you are saying. We are on the same team. We want the team to succeed. We would gladly take the 7-5 years back from this debacle. Yes I wanted Leavitt to go. Yes I was excited when Holtz got here. Yes I am surprised we are losing so much. What is the common denominator? Holtz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope he turns it around but he truly believes his philiosophy works and it will be his downfall. He doesnt change. These same group people were fired from South Carolina including Holtz, Fitch, and Cosh. They have a history and not succeeding at the bigger level. Let us reason together.