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No Thursday night games! We might have a chance!

"The success he had at South Florida, including at one point being ranked number two nationally, has not been anywhere close to repeated since his departure." Well that sentence hurts. Pretty much sums it up. I like Jim as much as the next guy but there was a clusterfck of strange events that got us ranked at #2. Yea, I wish we were that good again but we were never the 2nd best team in the country and we never finished ranked in the Top 25. Edit: Or did we finish 24 one year before I started following the team? Yes but right now we don't have a cluster of strange events that would make the teams of the last 4 years hang within 14 points of the teams between 2007 and 2009. At the time in the season we beat Auburn (who went to Gainesville and beat UF 2 weeks later), beat WVU (who would later get back to #2 and squander a national title shot), destroyed the crap out of UNC and were sitting at 6-0 with better wins than anyone else. Were we the second best team in the country? No. At that point in the season did anyone have a better resume? No. And that seemed to be the M O of CJL teams. Lack of depth, better coaching, etc. all excuses/reasons have been used for our annual collapse in conference play. I wonder what Harlan would do if we CJL was still here and we continued with the trend of making low end bowl games, but NEVER sniffing a conference title? If CJL had been coaching the last 5 years, we'd probably be 8-5 or 9-4 most years. We may even be in another conference ( ). Or maybe we are in this conference but we win because we don't play anybody. We'll never know. With the perspective of the last 5 years though, I think we'd all be just fine with those 8-5 seasons again.

Most FBS teams play 12 games in a regular season. 13 with a bowl game. There are 14-15 weeks in a regular season and you get 2-3 BYE weeks where you play no one.

Another reason to dislike the old golden boys. May their first play be a fumble!

I usually wait until the spring game to make a pick. But if I had to: 6-7 Make a bowl game, the lowest possible bowl game. Probably drop the UCF game too, but we begin the real rebuild.

Got back home after watching that game and a night at Beef's with some buddies. That was a terrible game play-wise. But it was heart-pounding at the end. I guess I got my time's worth XD Wish we could hit FT's. Or anything really. We turn it over every other play and look lost when we have the lead. But we managed to get the W tonight and that's all that matters Go Bulls

If its a scandal of some sort and we haven't heard about it yet, it may be for the best when the news breaks that we fired him sooner rather than later. If its just for a lousy start (which I doubt) then eyebrows will be raised.

That isn't true in either case. Both are very confident kids. They can express confidence and say they are ready. They talk up the week before a game about their prep and say all the right things. But once they get on the field it slowly drips away. The confidence drops with ever missed/dropped pass and every turnover Good kids. Bench bounces back better. White gets into a funk sometimes. Not trying to knock them. Just saying they need a bit of swagger on the field. Not just the weight room and mid week press releases.

Confidence in your abilities is one thing White and Bench both lack at the moment. Grothe had it in spades during big games. Part of it is development (something we don't do well) and part of it is natural skill. We'll just have to see if an offseason reflecting on just how bad they were puts a chip on our QB's shoulders. Then we may see improvement. I also love the end of the video when the Auburn fans are throwing their pom-poms at the players. It warms my heart.

So by comparison, the post slapgate status is: Miller is working some dead-end job with a lame degree and blaming all his life's misfortunes on a single isolated incident in which he may or may not have told some version of the truth on one occasion or another. Jim got fired, worked for an NFL team that went to 3 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl and is now working at an FBS college. He will most likely be hired for a Head Coaching job within 3-4 years if he does well. USF football is a whopping 22-39 (8-5, 5-7, 3-9, 2-10, 4-8) since Jim's ouster. We are on our second coach. Announced attendance has dropped by around 20,000. We ousted or AD (retired my ass). We missed conference realignment and got downgraded to the AAC (at least Cinci and UConn can suffer with us). We have lost 2 straight to our only officially recognized rival (one of which was a shutout at home). And we still don't have an On-Campus Publix....er.....Stadium.....

Didn't we change pitchers in the 6th or 7th inning? Sounds like Florida has one of our girls' number. Early in the season still. If we minimize mistakes then we keep up with them. We can get better as the year goes on.

Well. I can't say I blame them.

I don't know what to believe anymore. My life is a lie.

The top 4 teams in Women's BB could wipe the floor with everyone else in the country. Especially when they play at home. Rarely do they have a letdown game. The talent level is just way too big and makes it really hard for unranked teams (or any team ranked lower than them) to beat them without playing a near perfect game. That being said, I now have sufficient motivation to go to the UConn game in March. Miracles happen, right?

This thread was actually educational.

He must be a freshman or a nerd. or both! Winner I'll take Nerd for 500, Alex.

I'm just saying. Eventually things will change. We'll realize he did more good while he was here than harm when he left. I'm not saying we build a bronze statue and canonize him as a Saint. I'm saying USF eventually gets its head out of its rather large rear and extends the hand of reconciliation. Its up to Jim to accept. We build a relationship from there. Maybe he gets some recognition and a plaque somewhere in a facility. Maybe he gets a job as an advisor. Maybe he gets nothing at all except a warm fuzzy feeling! I'd rather we not have a feud with someone who was such a big part of our football history. Especially if the alumni players liked him or it makes everything look better form a PR point of view down the road. No harm in trying.

Part of me wants to go and see a game and take a load off. The other part of me wants to sleep in because of 7:30 classes during the week. We'll see. Go Bulls!

why is that? Because many people like to live in the past. Just to make peace. There's no denying he's a big part of our history here. We don't have a lot of history to begin with and we can't really afford to throw his time here out the window and pretend like it didn't happen. We can't talk about our past success without acknowledging he was a big reason for those successes and building this program. Someday we have to make peace with him so that we can bury this hatchet and move on for good. Give the man a dedicated sign at some future facility and have him be there to see it. Again: We shouldn't try to hire him back. But when his coaching career has come to a close we ought to give him a place he can really call home. Its about having some class. He's gotta do it too, so some of it is on him. But we can't risk having a Bobby Knight-Indiana situation arise where he never wants anything to do with us without an apology and have it cause a rift with alumni and the school. The guy may not have been perfect I get that. He had his locker room issues, a few academic ones, and his on the field habit of losing toward the middle/end of the year, but he was a good coach and he gave the University a lot during his time here. To not recognize that would be a disservice. We just have to make our peace, for old time's sake if nothing else.

Sooner or later USF will have to make it's peace with Leavitt. Not saying hire him. Just make peace.

So you agree our coaching has sucked. I won't say sucked. I'll say it has been operating with blinders on. Taggart didn't see that every recruit he pulls in from Florida will need to beef up a bit with this system. That takes time, time he doesn't have. He needed to be more flexible to start, then be hard nosed in the future when his players and system were in place. His system CAN work. You can have a run first attack if you have the system in place and the players to run it. Ohio State didn't get as fast AND strong as it is overnight. Conditioning, coaching, and player development on both sides of the ball is what you need to be successful. Taggs is in his 3rd year now and most of these players are his young guys. If he can't at least get us 6-6 this year, that's a reflection on the coaching and development of this team. If they get run over, that's a reflection on conditioning. This is that magic indicator year. More of Tagg's starters on the field this year, now we see what he is made of. If we fail this year we can't expect much better in the future. Lets let it play out though. Maybe they surprise us. Maybe they don't.

USF needs to understand run offensive blocks and develop the wide receiver talent. The way I see it, Ohio State has hyper talented WR's and RB's. Their weakness this year was supposed to be their offensive line. But the OC and Urban both understand how blocking works. After a few hiccups early on, now the line looks like a monster unit. If USF had the fundamentals of blocking down, we would at least be serviceable. The WR position is very important and USF's just aren't getting the right development. They drop passes like their hands are covered in butter. Wide receivers are huge in a play action game (common with a good run team) and keep the defense from stacking the box. They don't need to spread them, just be respectable enough that the safeties aren't playing 10 yards out.

I saw him on campus once. He waved at me I think. That was pretty cool.

I'll watch games that don't involve two 6-6 teams trying to duke it out. So if G5 schools have a lot of that they benefit from my viewership.