bull-71 Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,421 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/17/2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Wait, what if. . . DePaul beats ND. Louisville/ND split Saturday. Sunday gets rained out. There would be a 3-way tie at 18-3, so at least we'd be "co-champs." The tie-breaker would get VERY sloppy. . . Quick........ rub Budha's belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrunner Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 714 Content Count: 7,796 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Wait, what if. . . DePaul beats ND. Louisville/ND split Saturday. Sunday gets rained out. There would be a 3-way tie at 18-3, so at least we'd be "co-champs." The tie-breaker would get VERY sloppy. . . I didn't even consider the possibility of a rain out. Guess I should pull out my rain stick and do a little dance next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Makes our dumb scheduling error look even dumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 1,027 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/13/2005 Share Posted April 28, 2013 At 18-3, head-to-head would be: UL 1-1 ND 1-1 USF 0-0 Not sure if that knocks us out (winning % of 0.500 does "beat" 0.000) Record against common opponents (starting at the top) would be difficult to sort out given the uneven schedules. The only teams ALL THREE schools played would be Nova and Pitt. Versus Nova: USF 3-0 UL 3-0 ND 2-1 Versus Pitt: USF 3-0 ND 3-0 UL 2-0 (Not sure if 3-0 counts as an "advantage" over 2-0, tie-breaking procedures are not clear on this; with WBB, that only matters if all common-opponent records are otherwise "equal" and you have to start back at the top of the standings). From these, it would seem that ND is out based on their loss to Nova. Starting back with USF/UL, we have five common opponents: SU (both 2-1), Nova (both 3-0), Pitt (USF 3-0, UL 2-0), PC (USF 3-0, UL 2-0), SJU (USF 2-0, UL 3-0). As long as SJU finishes behind Pitt or PC, we might have the advantage. If 3-0 and 2-0 are viewed as equal, then it says "runs given up against each other." We didn't play each other, but that's the last line on the tie-breaking procedures. If you extrapolate to "runs given up in all conference games," we've already clinched (29 vs 35, with UL having games still to play). Otherwise, coin toss? Right now, ND up 2-0 in the 5th, so it may not matter soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrunner Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 714 Content Count: 7,796 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 At 18-3, head-to-head would be: UL 1-1 ND 1-1 USF 0-0 Not sure if that knocks us out (winning % of 0.500 does "beat" 0.000) Record against common opponents (starting at the top) would be difficult to sort out given the uneven schedules. The only teams ALL THREE schools played would be Nova and Pitt. Versus Nova: USF 3-0 UL 3-0 ND 2-1 Versus Pitt: USF 3-0 ND 3-0 UL 2-0 (Not sure if 3-0 counts as an "advantage" over 2-0, tie-breaking procedures are not clear on this; with WBB, that only matters if all common-opponent records are otherwise "equal" and you have to start back at the top of the standings). From these, it would seem that ND is out based on their loss to Nova. Starting back with USF/UL, we have five common opponents: SU (both 2-1), Nova (both 3-0), Pitt (USF 3-0, UL 2-0), PC (USF 3-0, UL 2-0), SJU (USF 2-0, UL 3-0). As long as SJU finishes behind Pitt or PC, we might have the advantage. If 3-0 and 2-0 are viewed as equal, then it says "runs given up against each other." We didn't play each other, but that's the last line on the tie-breaking procedures. If you extrapolate to "runs given up in all conference games," we've already clinched (29 vs 35, with UL having games still to play). Otherwise, coin toss? Right now, ND up 2-0 in the 5th, so it may not matter soon enough. And this is why I hate softball scheduling; the unbalanced schedules with 2-game and 3-game series, plus no make up games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 1,027 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/13/2005 Share Posted April 28, 2013 DePaul gets one on the board, trailing 2-1, Top 6th. Yes, the scheduling is an absolute mess, maybe we'll be able to play all conference members next year. Also, the problem with the timing at Seton Hall should never have happened and may cost us a share of the title. A few years ago, we had a rain-out at Rutgers and it cost us a first-place finish if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrunner Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 714 Content Count: 7,796 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 DePaul ties it up in the 6th. 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 1,027 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/13/2005 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Blue Demons escape from bases-loaded, 1-out jam to keep the score 2-1, Irish. In the bottom of the 6th, DePaul just tied it 2-2. Two on, no outs. This could still happen! And, no, I'm not actually at this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 1,027 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/13/2005 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Ha! Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrunner Posted April 28, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 714 Content Count: 7,796 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 5-2 DePaul, bottom 6. Hope stays alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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