Singabull Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 873 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Bottom line, it will be a huge mistake if they don't make some move for a bat. If they are banking on Baldelli making a late season comeback then they are in trouble. Just look how bad the offense has been. They are struggling against the crappy royals pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Bleed_Green&Gold Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 526 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2007 Share Posted July 26, 2008 ROFL @ Nady being the Answer. He's a dude who is having a great season but the numbers don't add up to everything else he's done in his career. Basically he could fall off at any moment and it wouldn't surprise me in the least (a shift of scenery and a new locker room could very easily trigger this). The Rays should trade for a more talented and more proven hitter than Nady IMO. Well to me any guy thats batting .330 is a good get. Maybe he'll cool off at the end of the season but they still got him and Marte for peanuts. Here are some numbers on the 4 guys they gave away.Ohlendorf was 1-1 with a 6.53 ERA in 25 games with the Yankees this season. He was demoted June 27, and had a 1-1 record with a 4.03 ERA in five starts with Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Tabata, Kontos and Coke all were with Class AA Trenton. Tabata was batting .248 with three homers entering last night, Coke was 9-4 with a 2.60 ERA and Kontos was 3-9 with a 3.77 ERA. Yankees Acquire Nady, Marte From the Pirates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Rays should go after Tex... HE is the answer. Instant POP into the lineup, and a gold glove caliber first basemanAs i've expressed here several times i'm in total agreement. Hes a switch hitting power hitter who hits lefties well and has been very consistent so far in his career and he's about to enter his prime years. They rays should give some pitching to the pitching starved braves system and and ink Tex for the long term. BJ, CC, Tex, and Longo would be one hell of an offensive nucleus. Also add in that inking Tex to a big money contract would signal to the Bay area that the rays are in this for real and could lead to a huge boost in support. Tex would give the rays a hitter capable of producing Penas year last year every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Rays should go after Tex... HE is the answer. Instant POP into the lineup, and a gold glove caliber first basemanalthough i would like having Tex on the rays i just dont see that happening. If they are gonna go BIG TIME on the trade market id rather it be Matt Holliday or Jason Bay.I love holliday but his numbers away from coors worry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Well, nady was the last chance the rays had to make the playoffs. Freedman has no balls.ROFL @ Nady being the Answer. He's a dude who is having a great season but the numbers don't add up to everything else he's done in his career. Basically he could fall off at any moment and it wouldn't surprise me in the least (a shift of scenery and a new locker room could very easily trigger this). The Rays should trade for a more talented and more proven hitter than Nady IMO. yes his numbers this year are better then at any point in his career...(you can say that for pretty much anyone who is putting up the numbers he is this year) but the fact is..the yankees didnt pay for the kinda numbers he is putting up this year. and the rays wouldnt of either. Nady is a CAREER .320 hitter vs LHP. i wish we would of gotten him. specially with Marte. The yankees were able to keep their top 2 prospects (which are equal to our #7 or 8 guys) so if you were to say that we could trade our #7 and #8 prospects and some other guys who might never pan out...for Nady and Marte i would love to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Rays should go after Tex... HE is the answer. Instant POP into the lineup, and a gold glove caliber first basemanalthough i would like having Tex on the rays i just dont see that happening. If they are gonna go BIG TIME on the trade market id rather it be Matt Holliday or Jason Bay.I love holliday but his numbers away from coors worry me. coors isnt what it was back in the larry walker, dante bichette, vinny castilla years....have you looked at Hollidays numbers on the road? Not bad at all. granted about 98% of the players will have better numbers at home...coors or not. its just the comfort factor. you are use to the batters eye, you sleep in your own bed, you can to the ballpark by yourself in your normal routine.Holliday would rake at the Trop too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 ROFL @ Nady being the Answer. He's a dude who is having a great season but the numbers don't add up to everything else he's done in his career. Basically he could fall off at any moment and it wouldn't surprise me in the least (a shift of scenery and a new locker room could very easily trigger this). The Rays should trade for a more talented and more proven hitter than Nady IMO. Well to me any guy thats batting .330 is a good get. Maybe he'll cool off at the end of the season but they still got him and Marte for peanuts. Here are some numbers on the 4 guys they gave away.Ohlendorf was 1-1 with a 6.53 ERA in 25 games with the Yankees this season. He was demoted June 27, and had a 1-1 record with a 4.03 ERA in five starts with Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Tabata, Kontos and Coke all were with Class AA Trenton. Tabata was batting .248 with three homers entering last night, Coke was 9-4 with a 2.60 ERA and Kontos was 3-9 with a 3.77 ERA. Yankees Acquire Nady, Marte From the PiratesTabata is only 19 and has pretty good potential. The others are meh at best but i still wouldn't bank any teams future on Nady who has been aight so far as a MLB player and is 30 and just having his first good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Rays should go after Tex... HE is the answer. Instant POP into the lineup, and a gold glove caliber first basemanalthough i would like having Tex on the rays i just dont see that happening. If they are gonna go BIG TIME on the trade market id rather it be Matt Holliday or Jason Bay.I love holliday but his numbers away from coors worry me. coors isnt what it was back in the larry walker, dante bichette, vinny castilla years....have you looked at Hollidays numbers on the road? Not bad at all. granted about 98% of the players will have better numbers at home...coors or not. its just the comfort factor. you are use to the batters eye, you sleep in your own bed, you can to the ballpark by yourself in your normal routine.Holliday would rake at the Trop too.Hoilliday's career numbersSplit G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip tOPS+Home 334 324 1407 1256 265 459 100 16 81 294 117 9 210 28 0 6 14 36 23 8 .365 .429 .664 1.093 .389 130Away 311 304 1325 1196 167 331 75 7 39 161 106 6 251 15 1 7 12 35 28 8 .277 .341 .449 .790 .320 68All of his offensive numbers drop significantly away from coors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I'd take Tex over Bay or Holliday. He brings more offensively and defensively.The key though is signing him and not making it a 2 month rental. Gonna have to open your checkbooks... big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted July 26, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted July 26, 2008 they have no one to blame but themselvesthey should have signed bondsthe timid and weak rarely achieve anything in sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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