smazza Posted August 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted August 27, 2004 but if he doesn't does he owe dolphins signing bonus?i say no since contracts aren't guaranteed and he can be cut at anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted August 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted August 27, 2004 but if he doesn't does he owe dolphins signing bonus?i say no since contracts aren't guaranteed and he can be cut at anytimeHe wasnt cut though, he quit. It is a good case. I am all for NFL guys holding out to get paid as the teams dont honor the contacts when the player does not perform to the teams expected production. In sports where contracts are gaurenteed NBA, NHL, MLB, I hate guys that holdout as the club has to pay you everything if you are a stiff so you should honor until the end as you signed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Eats It Posted August 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,088 Content Count: 8,158 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 If he comes back this year, he can't play anyway, as he's failed the Drug Test 3 times and that carries a mandatory 1 yr. suspension.I fail to see the logic in him coming back right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted August 27, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted August 27, 2004 If he comes back this year, he can't play anyway, as he's failed the Drug Test 3 times and that carries a mandatory 1 yr. suspension.I fail to see the logic in him coming back right now.  I was thinking that he hates wandstadt. If he comes back this year he will have to sit out anyway and then he would probably be eligible next year and even though wayne is a dumbass I dont see how wandstadt could fool him into another season. Problem is that if rickey were to sitout this year with a suspension, I am sure they would piss test the hell out of him and something tells me they would be looking a little harder for masking agents in his pee now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattegunz Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 687 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Its a 4 game suspension for failing the 3rd time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted August 31, 2004 he's talking about filing bankruptcy now... he won't be back... he's trying to stiff the phins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 stiff the phins?how is he stiffing them?they can cut him anytime? so can't he quit anytime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 kr-they can cut him anytime hence he should be able to quit anytime and allparties assume risk of losing money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Share Posted August 31, 2004 kr-they can cut him  anytime hence he should be able to quit anytime and allparties assume risk of losing moneyI agree. Reread my posts. I am all for NFL guys holding out if they outperformed their contract just because the teams have no problem cutting them if they dont live up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted August 31, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted August 31, 2004 BY stiffing the fins i mean if they sue him and actually win, he is going to file bankruptcy so they won't get the money owed to him.I didn't say the dolphins would win, just an if they did scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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