Apis Bull Posted January 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Link: Bush took money (allegedly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted January 26, 2007 he was underpaid even in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLfreak Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 646 Content Count: 7,890 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2004 Share Posted January 26, 2007 His USC condoms are going down for this. Old Pete should lose his job over this one! GO BULLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 26, 2007 No they aren't. Right now there is zero evidence linking any of the benefits to USC, their coaches, or their athletic department.Chances of USC getting in any trouble for this is low right now, unless some new evidence comes up linking Bush's benefits to any of the above listed they probably won't receive many sanctions if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 he was underpaid even in collegeNow that's funny... ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyGlass Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 16 Content Count: 549 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2006 Share Posted January 26, 2007 No they aren't. Right now there is zero evidence linking any of the benefits to USC, their coaches, or their athletic department.Chances of USC getting in any trouble for this is low right now, unless some new evidence comes up linking Bush's benefits to any of the above listed they probably won't receive many sanctions if any.I don't see how that could be. They were using an ineligible player. That's got to count for something.I hardly believe that it's OK for players to be showered with money and gifts as long as it's not the school doing it. Bush is the link to USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbulls2004 Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 127 Content Count: 2,118 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/21/2004 Share Posted January 27, 2007 hopefully this comes back false. Bush was an amazing player in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I don't see how that could be.  They were using an ineligible player.  That's got to count for something.I hardly believe that it's OK for players to be showered with money and gifts as long as it's not the school doing it.  Bush is the link to USC.How can you hold the school liable for a player when they have no connection to the illegal gifts? At this point they believe it all came from an agent who was trying to get an athlete who coming out of college would be worth millions. That would just open up a can of worms for a Texas A&M Booster to feed a Texas player money and gifts so that the school suffers the reprocussions of those violations.As long as USC has taken all steps to assure their boosters (that is anyone who has ever bought a ticket for any athletic event) know they should not be giving money, gifts, or any other benefit to any student athlete and they are found to not be connected with the extra beenfits Bush has received they should not be held liable, ineligible player or not.I have worked in Compliance since graduating from USF a year ago, so I am slanted more towards the school side, but this is honestly what I believe will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukebull Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 92 Content Count: 1,812 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I don't see how that could be.  They were using an ineligible player.  That's got to count for something.I hardly believe that it's OK for players to be showered with money and gifts as long as it's not the school doing it.  Bush is the link to USC.How can you hold the school liable for a player when they have no connection to the illegal gifts? At this point they believe it all came from an agent who was trying to get an athlete who coming out of college would be worth millions. That would just open up a can of worms for a Texas A&M Booster to feed a Texas player money and gifts so that the school suffers the reprocussions of those violations.As long as USC has taken all steps to assure their boosters (that is anyone who has ever bought a ticket for any athletic event) know they should not be giving money, gifts, or any other benefit to any student athlete and they are found to not be connected with the extra beenfits Bush has received they should not be held liable, ineligible player or not.I have worked in Compliance since graduating from USF a year ago, so I am slanted more towards the school side, but this is honestly what I believe will happen.Schools have and do get in trouble for this, they lack institutional control is the claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nuke, you can only control your student athletes to a certain bound. Any deals that some scumball agent and the players family make is really out of USC's control.I know because it's USC, most wouldn't mind seeing them go down in flames, but the reality is you can only blame the athletic department so much before its legitmately a remote occurance. The schools that do in trouble for this are the ones that have blantently helped or ignored those who are assisting players. (See: Mississippi State) There has been no evidence that USC has done either and until there is the chances of them getting into trouble is very slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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