USFMikeB Posted October 29, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted October 29, 2006 To my knowledge, none of the computer rankings are using it. Also, I can only confirm that one of the computer rankings is using opponents' opponents scheduling at all, Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72bull Posted October 29, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 54 Content Count: 1,212 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2002 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Holy Crap, Wes Colley "bias free" ranking rates Rutgers No. 7, UL no. 9 & WVU 13! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFMikeB Posted October 29, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Keep in mind that the BCS throws out each team's highest and lowest computer ranking in order to try and avoid outliers skewing their rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,049 Reputation: 10,834 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dennis Dodd chimes in on the Big East, no losses, and the SEC:http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9763796 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFMikeB Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dennis Dodd chimes in on the Big East, no losses, and the SEC:http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9763796As Dodd states, we can expect to see a whole month of this being dissected. The bright spot is that the BE has looked much better this year due to last year's defeat of UGA by WVU in a BCS bowl and a much improved OOC record against other BCS teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted October 30, 2006 try this formulaStrength of a Team's ScheduleAnother computer program helps to determine the third variable -- how a team's strength of schedule compares to other teams nationally. The cumulative win/loss record of not only the team's opponents, but their opponents' opponents are included in this calculation. This makes teams think twice about lining up a bunch of teams they know that they can crush on the field. It also makes coaches and athletic directors once again jump into the world of statistics. They have to plan their schedule in advance, meaning that they have to predict how well their opposition will do in the future as well as who they are likely to play. The computer program produces a numerical value representing the strength of the opponents schedule (So) and one for the opponents' opponents (Soo). A team's overall strength of schedule (St) is then calculated using these numbers. The opponent's scheduled strength is worth twice as much as their opponents' schedule. Let's put it in the form of an equation: 2 * So + Soo= St The resulting number, St, is used in ranking a team's schedule relative to all other Division I schools. Once they have been placed in order, this list is then subdivided into quartiles (1-25, 25-50, 50-75, and so on). Their rank is then converted back to a point total by multiplying it by 0.04. This allows teams to be rated based on their placement within a given quartile. Here's an example: A team's schedule strength is ranked No. 30 in the nation. Multiplying 30 by 0.04 gives you their point total for this category, 1.2. The 1 tells you that they placed in the second quartile, and the 2 tells you approximately where they placed within that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFMikeB Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Perhaps you could provide a link to what computer ranking is using this formula so we can see whether or not it is relevant to a BCS discussion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag Pie Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 59 Content Count: 2,307 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2003 Share Posted October 30, 2006 The so called "Experts" disagree with you Jim, Sports reporters (espn show), Gameday guys (Corso, Herb, Fowler) all believe if the OSU/UM game is close that there is a strong possibility for a re-match for the national championshipDoes anyone know if this would be the first #1/#2 rematch in a national championship? Or would this be the first (if the "experts" are correct)?Florida St, Florida in 96 Sugar bowl. #2 FSU beat #1 UF in season, UF beat FSU in the NC.R to the izzo is typing, but I forgot to switch to my id Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFPDiddy Posted October 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,334 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/15/2003 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Holy Crap, Wes Colley "bias free" ranking rates Rutgers No. 7, UL no. 9 & WVU 13!The Colley matrix is about as objective as it gets. The explanation of how it works involves some integral calculus, but even if you didn't know that reading through would probably give you a general idea. This is probably my favoirte computer system, because it factors only wins/losses and SOS based on first an average rating for week 1, and then the real ratings of the teams as they progress week to week. Because it uses the ratings of opponents to factor SOS(which are based on the ratings of their opponents and so on), SOS is factored in VERY well.Colley is a true ranking based on only wins and the strength of those wins based on other wins. If you like objective comparisons, there is nothing better than this by season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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