the transfer portal

[Bull94]

19 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

Yes, that reason is more money and better exposure. Nearly all of the examples you are giving are players transferring amongst power schools. Do that same exercise for great players who transferred from a P4/5 to a G5. 

This system is an upside down funnel, the lower you are in conference/money/brand/whatever, the more opportunities above you players will have as better options. If you are a top 20 school, why bother even trying to recruit anyone other than the best of best high schoolers when you simply can acquire already developed/proven talent by offering…wait for it…more money and more exposure. 

sorry but a QB transferring from notre dame to alabama isn't leaving for more money and more exposure.

Here is a QB that transferred from LSU to Auburn to Texas State. They beat Baylor this year.

He is listed as a top transfer last year in the SI article at the bottom.

TJ Finley - Texas State Bobcats Quarterback - ESPN

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Edited October 6, 2023 by Bull94

[belgianbull]

12 minutes ago, Triple B said:

It’s an anomaly in regards to USF until it’s not ….  

Exactly. What happened under the last two coaching staffs is irrelevant now. The fact that we could only win 1 FBS game in 3 years was irrelevant. Couldnt win a road game against Navy or any team. Irrelevant. This new coaching staff is going to grind to keep our best players, and if they leave he will replace them with day 1 impact players. Group of five teams have found ways to keep their best players ( one example is WKU).

Many impact players will decide to stay since they see coach Golesh has something special going at USF. Just need to be competitive with what we can offer them regarding nil money, but there is no reason that we cant figure that out.

[00Bull]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

sorry but a QB transferring from notre dame to alabama isn't leaving for more money and more exposure.

Here is a QB that transferred from LSU to Auburn to Texas State. They beat Baylor this year.

He is listed as a top transfer last year in the SI article at the bottom.

TJ Finley - Texas State Bobcats Quarterback - ESPN

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View the profile of Texas State Bobcats Quarterback TJ Finley on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.

si.com

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Exceptions to the rule. For everyone 1 of him, there are 100 Blake Barnetts and Matthew Hills. This is a predominantly one way street.

[olafberserker]

2 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

Exceptions to the rule. For everyone 1 of him, there are 100 Blake Barnetts and Matthew Hills. This is a predominantly one way street.

Except there isn't this huge amount of traffic on that street as you are trying to proclaim

[00Bull]

9 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

Many impact players will decide to stay since they see coach Golesh has something special going at USF. Just need to be competitive with what we can offer them regarding nil money, but there is no reason that we cant figure that out.

So you agree, we will likely only keep the players we can pay. Now let’s compare what USF can pay to what power schools can pay. 
Trying not to beat a dead horse here but these rebuttals are making the point. Effective last season, this is a pay for play league.
How do the Rays do with retaining talent? 

Edited October 6, 2023 by 00Bull

[00Bull]

15 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

Except there isn't this huge amount of traffic on that street as you are trying to proclaim

Oh really? 
 

10 trends, lessons and takeaways from CFB's '22-23 transfer portal cycle

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Where did all those transfer players ended up, what made this portal cycle...

 

[olafberserker]

5 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

Oh really? 
 

10 trends, lessons and takeaways from CFB's '22-23 transfer portal cycle

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Where did all those transfer players ended up, what made this portal cycle...

 

2023 College Football Transfer Portal Quarterback Top Players

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The best 2023 college football qb that have entered the transfer portal.

 

[Bull94]

33 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

Exceptions to the rule. For everyone 1 of him, there are 100 Blake Barnetts and Matthew Hills. This is a predominantly one way street.

USF Football's Late Transfer Additions Shining As Bulls Head To UAB - USF Athletics

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South Florida at UAB • Saturday • 4:00 PM • ESPN2 • 102.5 FM/Bulls Unlimited

 

[Bull94]

36 minutes ago, 00Bull said:

Exceptions to the rule. For everyone 1 of him, there are 100 Blake Barnetts and Matthew Hills. This is a predominantly one way street.

we have brought in plenty of transfers from P5 that have gone on to NFL careers. what's funny is that some of the ones that come back will have gotten paid to sign with a P5 only to transfer back

[00Bull]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

USF Football's Late Transfer Additions Shining As Bulls Head To UAB - USF Athletics

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South Florida at UAB • Saturday • 4:00 PM • ESPN2 • 102.5 FM/Bulls Unlimited

 

When 1/3 or more your roster leaves, I have no doubt portal transfers will be contributors in the rebuild. It’s who you are giving up and who you are getting back.
The article I posted above did the analysis: 60 All Conference players from the G5 left for the P5. How many All Conference P5s joined G5s?
 

Perhaps the best case to be made is that USF becomes a top G5 team, so although we lose our talent (which gets more exposure because we are a top team - double edged sword), we get the pick of the P4 castoffs and can poach weaker G5 teams players. Can’t imagine it’s going to be fun coaching first year players perpetually but it is what it is.