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Two Lineman, One Recruit Won’t Report to USF


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Guest S.  Bien

I too don't like transfers.  I knew there are a few examples of them working out but mostly they don't.

Demarcus Johnson actually did VERY well for UCF.  The others were nothing.

Besides, my whole point is you have a 50-50 chance of being correct on each recruit.  You only like to talk about the ones that you are correct on.  But that is a discussion for another board!  ;)

I'll tell you one I was a bust on and that was Ramon McCollough.  I got to see some serious clips of him in HS and that kid was something at nose.  He'd blow through the line, almost unblockable at times.  The only question mark was he was hurt a few times in HS that sidelined him and the injuries seemed minor.  Although the film was enough to make everyone go WOW.

Unfortunately Ramon bowed out of USF as quietly as he came in.  He never made the mark some thought he would.  It's a shame because he seemed to have some serious talent.

Another guy that was an animal in HS was Mascoe.  He had lots of off field problems but that kid was amazing.  Also a stud in JC, but he couldn't make it in the classroom.  

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Great news about Coleman and Grant.  They could make an immediate impact at LB and the return game, respectively.  

As for the starting Defensive and Offensive lineman, I hope they were seriously conditioning themselves this offseason, cause it looks like they wont be getting much relief this season.

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oh boy

there was so much hype when both these lineman signed

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Who are the 20 players that still have eligibilty that left since last fall???

I assume Fisher is included.  Searcy, Toewe included by way of this article.

Can anyone fill out the reminain 17 for me?

This is interesting for USF.

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fisher isn't included - he wasn't on the 2004 fall roster, was already out of the program. same with randy jackson, broward holsey, dorrean james, carlisle johnson, who left last summer.

i count C.J. Lewis, Cedric King, Mike Williams, Joe Bain, J.B. Garris, David Mullins, Billy Henderson, Willie Williams, Andre Copeland, Willie Phelps, C.J. Hunnicutt, Craig Lloyd, Devon Davis, Shadie Jones, Marten Toewe, Rod Joyner, Ramon McCullough, Antonio Searcy, Curtis Chance ... i'm missing one more but can't remember off top of my head ... very few of them were significant losses, but the volume is what stands out ...

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Joe Bain-SR-WR

Curtis Chance-SO-DL

Andre Copeland-FR-RB

Devon Davis-SR-LB

JB Garris-SO-WR

Colby Hearn-JR-WR

Billy Henderson-SR-RB

CJ Hunnicutt-FR-LB

Shadie Jones-FR-OL

Rod Joyner-JR-WR

Cedric King-SR-WR

CJ Lewis-SR-WR

Craig LLoyd-JR-RB

Mike Lube-JR-OL

Ramon McCollough-JR_DL

David Mullins-SR-LB

Willie Phelps-FR-DB

Antonio Searcy-SR-DT

Martin Toewe-FR-OL

Willie Williams-JR-WR

As you can see many are WRs that had no chance at plaing much. In fact other than Chance,Searcy,Henderson and McCollough i doubt the others would have gotten any playing time.

It has happened that the talent level has risen as shown by the many first and second years players that started or played last year.

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Joe Bain-SR-WR

Curtis Chance-SO-DL

Andre Copeland-FR-RB

Devon Davis-SR-LB

JB Garris-SO-WR

Colby Hearn-JR-WR

Billy Henderson-SR-RB

CJ Hunnicutt-FR-LB

Shadie Jones-FR-OL

Rod Joyner-JR-WR

Cedric King-SR-WR

CJ Lewis-SR-WR

Craig LLoyd-JR-RB

Mike Lube-JR-OL

Ramon McCollough-JR_DL

David Mullins-SR-LB

Willie Phelps-FR-DB

Antonio Searcy-SR-DT

Martin Toewe-FR-OL

Willie Williams-JR-WR

As you can see many are WRs that had no chance at plaing much. In fact other than Chance,Searcy,Henderson and McCollough i doubt the others would have gotten any playing time.

It has happened that the talent level has risen as shown by the many first and second years players that started or played last year.

Thanks Cuban.

I agree that most would not have played.  I think Copeland helps though with depth at RB.  He was highly rated out of hish school wasn't he?

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Ponton is the backup, copeland would have been 3rd string

but thanks for caring

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4th string since Simpson has more speed, and is more elusive.  He moved ahead of Copeland in the fall, the writing was on the wall for him as two classmates- Ponton and Simpson were clearly better.

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Joe Bain-SR-WR                    INJURY

Curtis Chance-SO-DL            off the field problems/Grades

Andre Copeland-FR-RB            Lack of playing time/unknown???

Devon Davis-SR-LB                  off the field problems/Grades

JB Garris-SO-WR                  Grades...will be back next year

Colby Hearn-JR-WR   La              Lack of playing time

Billy Henderson-SR-RB          Lack of playing time

CJ Hunnicutt-FR-LB                    Off the field problems/ Personal issues

Shadie Jones-FR-OL                  Lack of playing time

Rod Joyner-JR-WR              Ã‚ Grades/lack of playing time

Cedric King-SR-WR              Ã‚  Grades/lack of playing time/worth ethic

CJ Lewis-SR-WR                Lack of playing time

Craig LLoyd-JR-RB                Lack of playing time

Mike Lube-JR-OL                Lack of playing time

Ramon McCollough-JR_DL          Lack of playing time

David Mullins-SR-LB                          still on campus; Lack of playing time

Willie Phelps-FR-DB                          will return this year; ILLNESS

Antonio Searcy-SR-DT          Grades; work ethic

Martin Toewe-FR-OL                          Lack of playing time; recruiting reach

Willie Williams-JR-WR          Lack of playing time; desire to play football and basketball which couldn't do at USF

Isn't this list missing Chris McBee? I know he hurt his shoulder causing him to quit football.

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