Cow Pie

1) South Florida2) 38-163) Marlon Mack4) Rodney Adams5) 400

Thinking about coming back, student seating sucks and now that I have little Bulls I need more tickets. Depends on my current job search. Right now I can't go to half of the games because of work.

I'll just put this right here... http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/report-cincinnati-school-president-wants-to-move-to-the-big-12/

Not too bad considering its a copy of the UCF U-Knight campaign...

Like many, if I did that on Christmas week when my employer (USF) is counting on me to show up to man the phones and keep the lights on, then I would be taking a permanent sick day. You would think that since we are going to a bowl game that USF would bend on this rule a bit, but no such luck despite the fact that the campus will be a ghost town. If USF is being a stickler about people calling out "sick" on Christmas week to attend a bowl game, then I can only image how bad corporations are. Have a few beers for me...

If thats the case then USF will be hanging out in the AAC for a long time while we build our prestige up to Big12 standards. The only shortcut I can see is a package deal if we can put together some heated ranked rivalry matchups.

I'm sure that was sarcasm, but I asked him anyway. He said that USF is very interested in the MOSI site and that interest has nothing to do with football. He said sure if we get the land, thats where it would go, but the site has a lot more jewels on it than just land for a OCS. As far as MOSI goes it boils down to them going full bankrupt and being forced to take the bailout deal that was proposed a while back that would ultimately move them downtown into the new Channelside complex that Vinik is lobbying for.

I agree with your assessment of USF before and after football. Heck there wasn't even a Bullspen before we had football. As a Saint Leo Alum as well I can attest to how trans-formative a football program can be to a school. I grew up next to USF in the 1980's and can remember USF before football, and before football USF was a lot like Saint Leo now, just state funded, secular, and on a bigger and more empty campus. Regarding P5 conferences, the only way USF is ever getting into a P5 conference is if we can somehow convince the Big12 to take us and UCF as a package. Only way that is going to ever happen is if both programs can get good, stay good, and put together some meaningful televised games as ranked top 25 teams going head to head. The Big12 likes rivalries and rivalry games. Just my 2 cents.

I'm just as happy as the next Bull, but if Athletics thinks that our fan base is going to travel "well" to one of , if not the lowest ranked bowl games in all of College Football, that is also played on Monday at 2PM, and is five days before Christmas then they are crazy. I get that Athletics chose this game for recruitment and all vs. taking a glorified field trip across the bay to the St. Pete Bowl, or going back to Orlando where USF is hated by a good % of the local UCF-tards, I get all of that. This bowl will be great for the team and the players... also luckily for Athletics we have a ton of Bulls in the Miami-Dade-Broward region so those alum's and fans in the area will get a treat. I would be at this game if I could make it, but with it being five days before Christmas and four days before Christmas Eve, I couldn't get off of work to go to this game if I begged, stole, and borrowed, and I work at USF. Like many I'll be listening to this game on internet radio from my office. I made reservations to St. Pete and Orlando in the event we went to those games. Given the reputation of this game, I just hope that USF isn't required to purchase the same amount of tickets to the Miami Beach Bowl that it would had been required to purchase to St. Pete or Orlando from a financial stand point.

I would worry more about Taggart leaving to become a coordinator or Assistant Coach with Michigan then taking the Mizzou job.

I know we picked this game... a close friend of mine works in Advancement and he tweeted me that the St. Pete Bowl, Miami Beach, and Orlando Cure Bowl were all heavily engaged in getting USF to commit. He kept telling me on Sunday that it would be the Miami bowl because Athletics Admin had made its mind up that this was the place to go. I guess it boils down to recruiting over tickets sold and TV viewership. My questions have been answered.

I want an on-campus stadium because I would rather spend my game day on campus vs. 15 miles off campus in the middle of nowhere (mostly in the hood though) outside of Papa Glazers house. Also I work on campus here at USF, so my game day parking would be free.

On one hand I'm beyond happy that we are in a bowl game again... on another I'm confounded as to why we chose the Miami Beach Bowl over the St. Pete Bowl when we are likely going to have to eat over half of the tickets we have to purchase for the Miami Beach Bowl. I'm scratching my head as to why athletics thought that a 2PM Monday afternoon bowl game is good for the program, and a 12PM Saturday bowl game wasn't? I'm happy, just have a lot of questions.

South $%#^ing Florida 24-21 Mack Dillon 344

This is CWTs last season in my opinion. He doesn't need to take us to a bowl game to secure another year at the helm of USF. All he has to do is get us close to a bowl game. Expectations are not lofty over at One Bull Place... 6-6 or 7-5 would ink him a small extension.

How about lottery numbers... can you help a brother out?

South Florida 34-17 Mack Adams 315 I really have zero confidence in the Bulls under CWT thus far.

I think most agree with you ... unless by "on-campus college atmosphere" you mean aluminum bench seating and chain link fencing. Heck no, by on-campus college atmosphere I mean a real college atmosphere, not what UCF has. I'm talking concrete and steel with a mix of bench seating and stadium seating.

I don't think this is is a permanent move .... certainly hope it isn't, anyway. It depends on the TV money... I think that ESPN is going to get a massive regional ratings boost within the Tampa and Orlando areas. I really don't see ESPN letting this go if they are making $$ on two programs that don't really otherwise produce a strong return.

Sorry, but I would rather have an on-campus college atmosphere over a NFL atmosphere. Plus lets not forget the majority of us won't be able to afford to sit in the luxury recliners with the dual TV screens, and all of the other crap. So all of that extra stuff doesn't matter to the normal fans.

This will work out great for ESPN, but not so good for USF and UCF. ESPN will get a ratings boost from everyone that isn't at the game, while the schools suffer with low attendance numbers from a game that if it was schedule on a non-holiday weekend would be a major revenue generator.

Thanks for the link... I missed this thread, and read 5 pages of it. Seems like a better deal then before. Good move.

A close friend of mine just informed me that USF has effectively done away with football grandfathering of season ticket accounts? Is this true or some rumor?

I would love for this to happen. Only issue with the proposed split is that North Florida controls most of the central corridor of the State. Polk, Highlands, Hardee, Desoto, Okeechobee, and Glades Counties are more in line with North Florida culturally, socially, etc. Hypothetically speaking, to avoid a future third Florida split they would need to revise their map.