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To get him to make a single Instagram post on a product is $1 million dollars, maybe we can budget for a celebrity impersonator unless you are offering to pay?

I have no problem with CJS he seems like a perfectly nice person and I believe if he is failing it’s not from lack of effort, my issue is with the systemic failure that has become our men’s athletic programs. It’s just frustrating and I’m not interested in any five year plans that take 4 years to notice the first sign of improvement. Year one is a good place to start improvement, year two fine hopefully you learned something year one, year three wtf are you waiting for and year four wtf are you still doing here? Just win, it’s so easy to do in the AAC that even UCF has figured out how to do it and yet we make it look so hard for no explicable reason. It’s easy to come up with the millions of reasons why you can’t win, what we need are people that can come up with at least one way to do it.

It’s all we got right now and it’s in all of our interests for him to be successful but that doesn’t change the fact that a year of something is plenty of time to start forming opinions. Maybe a movie has the best ending ever and simply has the worst 30 minutes in its studio history but I wouldn’t know because I’ve stopped watching it long before that and I am perfectly fine with the odds that things tend to stay the course more so then they improve without drastic changes.

I don’t see how anything on here could be seen as outlandish, it is certainly more grounded in reality than any defense of CJS which is based entirely on hope. CJS is an abject failure, his failure is as much of his own making as it is CCS’ fault, if CJS chooses to believe he is not at fault his tenure will end much like it started but if he pivots he can perhaps redeem himself, his hiring choices were horrible, his recruiting leaves room for improvement, I can’t think of any real development during the season, his game management not great, he comes from a family of coaching failure, Dabo is not known as fruitful coaching tree and those are just the nice things I can think to say about this current situation.

Sounds more like a chaser to me

This is a very reasonable approach but doesn’t really give us anything to talk about for the next four months

And just like that you killed the thread, how do you sleep at night?

I want a coach that can win and hopefully win some big games, I honestly do not care who that person is or who they have to sell their soul to in order to do it. My only issue with CJS is that so far TJ Weist did a better job of that and he only coached a single game. CJS has been an all around disappointment thus far and unfortunately this performance is his entire head coaching resume so it’s the only thing we can use to measure him.

Jose Fernandez came into an actual crisis and faced tremendous adversity taking over a program that had just lost their coach to a national racism scandal, Seth took over a Paschal team that won two conference games and managed to win two conference games and CWT came into a 3 win team and managed to win 2 games following an awful plan that if he had continued with would have seen him justly fired. Most people have managed to make their tweaks and even if they were completely wrong stay marginally close to the person they replaced but that’s not the case here, CJS failed on a level nowhere near the level that CCS got fired for dragging us down to and even today it is being trumpeted as a major success if he can even get back to that level with his second recruiting class and second season. That speaks a lot more to how remarkably CJS has failed in his time here than it does CCS. Just do better, when you are coming into a 4 win team competing in the AAC it shouldn’t be that hard. Yet here we are, thanks VPMK.

He personally snatched two losses from the jaws of victory so three is a given, as for QBs he was using the same one as last season but with the added bonus of a years experience and any and all talent measurements have us easily in the middle of the pack to upper portions of the AAC (your recruiting followings are probably much more in depth than mine but the compilations do tend to be directionally correct). What I am positive I would have done differently that would have paid off immediate dividends? As a first year coach I would have hired better and more experienced coordinators from a higher level than FAU even if I had to pull from my own compensation (as Usf is not where I am getting rich). I would have put them in control of their areas of expertise and had accountability for their areas without micromanaging them. I also would have hired a bagman if needed and got the QB I felt wasn’t on my roster here as coaching careers are made and lost by the qb of which he should be painfully aware for having come from Clemson. If he wants to take the moral high ground that’s lovely but I hope he figured out how to go about getting one the honest way going into this season because the next recruiting class is pretty much his last opportunity at finding one that would not be playing for his replacement.

Well first and foremost I like you and respect your fandom far more than my own and I am sorry that I detract in any way from your enjoyment. In all fairness to me I’m not bring these things up but simply commentating on them (probably mostly because I do not disagree with them) and I do think they, when looked at cumulatively, point out that you don’t have to have a grudge or green and gold glasses to expect that CJS should be doing better at this point. Back when we were actually doing well in life and moving up the college ranks people like Steve used to complain the entire time about CJL’s failure but that didn’t take away from my enjoyment because I knew something special was actually happening, that being a fan is now miserable I think has more to do with you can’t replace a LRS and CJL with a VPMK and CJS than it does me talking about their “success”. I do try to be mindful of other’s feelings and not turn everything, everywhere into a negative but what honestly did you expect would be talked about in a thread about how we have the worst coach in the AAC from an outside perspective? If there is a reason he is not currently the worst I would love to hear it and I hope this year we see actual improvement that can be seen by all instead of having to force everyone to pretend they see a new suit when he is clearly standing there naked.

We just need to destroy the patriarchal, imperialistic structures that prioritize silly things like results and success so that CJS can finally ascend to his rightful place at the top of lists but until that time it’s ground hog day every time they come out because it’s ground hog day every week that he fields a team.

It’s not the sun’s fault for coming up and shining the light on the fact that your 3 am 10 is actually a 10 am 3, if you don’t the cruel reality of how your actions cast you then you just have to do better. Lucky for CJS his career has been short so his narrative can completely turn around in a single season but the longer he takes to turnaround the harder it is and the less likely it becomes that he will ever do so, I would have preferred starting in year one but since that’s not an option any longer this season seems as good as any. If you go into your third year of being the worst there is no way anyone honestly has a lot of faith that a turnaround is eminent as your story has mostly been written as it plummets to its final chapters having the recruiting trail already abuzz your impending doom, the dumpster fire of the program and your continuous ranking at the bottom of every coaching ranking that doesn’t involve hot seats. Luckily for CJS the majority of our fans have given up and for the dedicated few that remain apathy has run a muck but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have to do better than the absolute worst by every measure every single time, assuming of course he is capable (but unfortunately has never actually been demonstrated a single time).

That’s typically all any coach needs to do, unfortunately it seems to be more allusive than it sounds like it should be.

He called his first season a failure and said it was driven by mistakes he personally made as a first year coach, I would like to think that he will learn from them and did an honest assessment of the things he can control in life but the fact still remains that his first year failures were completely unnecessary, most coaches rarely change, Dabo’s coaching tree is not awesome, more coaches that get started going the wrong direction end up getting fired than miracle things around and by every ranking that spans the country he is ranked at the bottom of his hiring group and the AAC (they have no dog in the fight and I see nothing that leads me to believe they are simply biased against CJS, it would be a lot easier to make an argument for it if he hadn’t failed so substantially and unquestionably at a rate not just worse than more talented programs but so amazingly worse than his own program and the failure he was following).

He has to have somewhere to be able to go, I have faith that if anyone can do it it’s him.

No one expected him to do as well as Memphis in order to not be last, he simply didn’t have to do four times worse in overall record than CCS got fired for sadly for all of us CJS managed the unimaginable and was able to beat one FCS team for a singe win all season where CCS had four, zero FBS wins where CCS had three, and zero AAC wins where CCS had two. The delta between 4-8 and a national championship can be blamed on CCS but the delta between 1 win and 4, with a comparable roster, is entirely on CJS and why he has earned his title as the worst coach in the AAC (a rather amazing accomplishment).

What if we didn't have to hire an unproven coach that started in 10th out of 11 and then while competing in the AAC with the same programs some how does the unthinkable and actually manages to move down? I guess the good news is this is rock bottom unless the conference expands. Ryan Silverfield got to start his first coaching gig in a covid year and managed to move up two spots, so there is that.

They just don’t know him like we do and that, despite their example of how Clemson coordinators are not guaranteed home run hires and how losing horrifically in year one usually means that your on a course to a losing career, the only way to turnaround a program and be a winner is by going as far away from winning as possible and burn the program completely to the ground. Who has it better than us? Well besides apparently 10 other AAC teams and obviously they every P5 team…

Shockingly more insightful than most of the posts on this thread

No I’m talking about people that switch programs are of course more likely to switch programs again How many years ago?

If you have been divorced you are 50 percent more likely to get divorced again and if you marry another divorced person you are 200 percent more likely, doing something for the first time is always the hardest and once you get over that hump doing it again is really no big deal.

I would have to know what yard line, about the food spread and bar situation in order to make an informed decision on what I would do. Especially because I’m sure they didn’t say how you had to wear the shirt.

The best way for us to capitalize on this (read the absolute only way) is that the NCAA is planning on their rules to prevent athletes from competing with the university on exclusive sponsorships they have signed which mostly is impactful to their shoe deals. That’s a lot of money for the university at a major program as well as the best path to money for the athletes but we can probably afford to give up the $5 adidas gives us to wear their ****** HS hand me down uniforms in order to get in talent that maybe attracted to their own shoe and glove deals.

If I have to choose between winning and losing against them or anyone I obviously prefer winning but my favorite era of the bore on I-4 was when we didn’t play them. 0-4 and no more was where the series was meant to end from a Usf perspective. I honestly don’t have a single person irl that’s ever told me about how excited they are to play UCF, not a one.