puc86

This isn’t a US courtroom, this is a private investigation in a kangaroo court and there is no due process. You simply decide your desired outcome and then find the evidence to support it.

It was a while ago and you probably missed it because I’m pretty sure he never actually left

They can just use more space in the men’s trophy case

Bank on it I will teach myself how to sculpt and personally chisel his deserved statue out of granite.

I’ve always said I am past ready to move on (well maybe not during CSH) but I am waiting on the better we were promised. Right now I dream of the plateau as the past decade has made it seem more like a pinnacle.

Why? If he passes CJL he will be my new favorite person on earth.

This is the one time of the year where people get to be excited, why rip that away from him?

If this happens I want to be the one to deliver CJS his contract extension and raise

I’m hoping for happy and hopeful

If we get six wins I will be excited and I think it would speak to realized improvement, if we get 5 I will be satisfied enough, if we get 4 I will be disappointed, if we get three I will be about where I am and if we get 2 or less we need to cut the charade and make it clear to CJS that the time to improve is passing and is he sure this is the staff and plan he would like to go his final mile with.

I hope you are wrong

That best case definitely works for me, reality or worst case? Not so much.

I always take umbrage with people finding it fine to disparage actual USF bulls that chose to come here in order to advance their defense of our latest mercenary. 24/7 has our talent in the middle of the AAC for last season but it’s probably that just like every other fact they just don’t understand that all stats are lies and just out to get CJS on his quest for his first FBS win oh his life. Trust the science, CJS is the reason for his failure last season and not the fact that he had to to deal with not getting to have better players and more practice than every other team that he faced. 2020 College AAC Football Team Talent Composite In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion... The players are the Bulls they are the ones that follow the program, show up, give shout outs and occasionally make contributions after they graduate. Either CJS will get his **** together and we will never hear from him again after the fourth season or he won’t in which case we will never hear from him again after season 4. I stand with the players and feel for them having to play under the heavy burden of systematic coaching failure.

I’ll answer the first one as it’s pretty easy almost all of college football didn’t get at least half of their practices in and 2/5’s got zero practices in (that’s less than CJS), at least 24 of which were first year coaches that were clearly installing “their” offenses and defenses with players that were not theirs almost all of which had better seasons than CJS. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/08/college-football-spring-practice-coronavirus Grading College Football's First-Year Coaching Hires for 2020 The 2020 college football season featured 24 new coaches at FBS programs, and with the... As for Fortin where is there any indication he would have been the starter going into last season? And where do you get any idea that we were more impacted by Covid than any other program in the country? I think you are looking at the results and then working backwards to find the excuse for why it must have happened, the problem is you aren’t looking for the adversity in the other programs because they did not perform as miserably as CJS. His results were pretty close the worst out of every first year coach, out of every coach that had or did not have a spring game, out of every coach installing new systems and out of every coach dealing with having to use their returning starting qb. That his results were at the bottom in no way points to his adversity being at the top and doesn’t seem to hold up to any scrutiny of the “data”. Now share with me some more of your feelings and point out how the data doesn’t know CJS like you do.

You have three years to turn things around by everyone on here’s math, I guess ultimately (besides continuing to hemorrhage fans) where you begin the actual improvement isn’t that horribly important (see your CWT example) but you have a better chance of hitting that acceptable mark in year three if one year isn’t wasted regressing and showing no improvements in any facet of anything (spare me the penalty thing as there is no correlation between penalties and winning in college football, I’ve presented the stats and can find them again if we must). So onto year two, how many more games should we expect CJS to win than what got CCS fired?

If you want me to say CJS has done anything besides fail here then yes that’s absolutely hopeless, why?

But how would anyone know that prior to him putting in the final keystone of the three year bridge that he was building? So if going from 4 wins to 1 win y/y isn’t worthy of criticism because it takes three years to not be embarrassing where exactly on that path is it okay to call out failure? Clearly you think it’s before three years and if we get to the heart of it you are going to point to where CCS started showing regression, CJS just got a jump start on that. No one expected him to win the conference but he certainly should have been marginally close to what CCS accomplished. Even ccs was able to do that with CWT.

So what you are trying to say is it was wrong to claim CCS should be fired when you did? Scott absolutely came into a less than optimal situation but that’s when it should be easiest to show improvement, he unfortunately showed regression and that he is a first year inexperienced coach is absolutely not his fault but it’s absolutely our fault for hiring him. Every single day is an opportunity to improve and take a step towards progress, it shouldn’t take you one year of going backwards to figure out what that first impactful step can be. It’s past time for CJS to demonstrate something and there is no reason it cannot be this year. If he was successful in year one not a single person would have been saying “it’s because of CCS and we never should have fired him”; if he can receive praise for being more successful he absolutely should receive criticism for catastrophic failure.

If it takes you three years in life to show improvement in any facet of anything you are not good at it, this isn’t the one thing in life where doing 25 percent as well as the person that got fired for performance (over an entire year) is somehow doing a better job. Doing worse is never a necessary component to going forward and the only way to be moving towards improvement is to actually be demonstrating improvement. I look forward to being able to say CJS is doing a great job but it’s completely foolish to say you can’t judge winning 1 of 9 in your first year, it’s complete and total failure demonstrated at a level worse than any other failed coach in our athletic history (and remarkably close to the worst anyone has ever done in the history of college football).

They had actual adversity, they were actually a year zero rebuild and they did better. CJS won one game because of failures of CJS and how he navigated the same adversities facing the majority of coaches. People thought anyone could do better than CCS and we managed to hire one of the few coaches that could do worse. He is going to hopefully improve but at present he is the embodiment of failure.

I prefer to think of it as being consistent. If you think it’s bad when someone goes sub .500 then it only stands to reason that it’s bad when someone goes .1111111111111111 having only beaten a single FCS team. For perspective if we had the season canceled we would have won the exact same number of FBS wins as we had last season and in 1971 a year after having almost their entire football program killed in a plane crash Marshal won twice as many games as we did. I guess that first year coach wasn’t quite dealing with the same amount of adversity as CJS had in his first season.

It’s out there... paywall...in 3,2,1....

In all fairness to Bry there is no way anyone can paint anything that happened last season as incremental improvement, we regressed and you can’t be moving forward when you are going backwards