cygnus34 Posted June 7, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,103 Content Count: 1,741 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Big East is better off without the bully By Matt Hayes - SportingNewsThe boys at the Big East don't know how good they've got it. The departure of Miami will be the best thing that ever happened to the league. And to think that frivolous lawsuit against the ACC still is out there, churning along, clogging the system in search of -- what else? -- money to make the hurt go away. The big hurt, fellas, left in January. In the 13 years Miami was in the Big East, there were only short stretches when the big, bad Canes weren't the only ones who mattered in the conference. That's when when Miami was on probation or when the most dynamic college player of our time -- some dude named Vick -- played a couple of years at Virginia Tech before moving to the NFL. Other than that, the annual Big East race was about as compelling as croquet. When the ACC raided the Big East last year, Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese dramatically deemed it "the most disastrous blow to intercollegiate athletics in my lifetime." Meanwhile, back in reality, this is what the Big East lost: television markets. And that's it. The new Big East doesn't have kingpin Miami to hide from. The new Big East still has its automatic BCS bid. The new Big East isn't pressing its face against the BCS window, begging for scraps and desperately following reform gadfly Scott Cowan. The Big East lost the nation's best program, the nation's most overrated program (Virginia Tech) and the Boston television market. Hardly disastrous. Connecticut, Rutgers, Pittsburgh and West Virginia have a lawsuit claiming Miami and Boston College conspired to weaken the Big East by leaving for the ACC. Programs aren't weakened by other programs; they're strengthened by winning. Should West Virginia have one of those magical seasons, go unbeaten and play in the BCS title game -- don't laugh, it might happen this fall -- that will do more for the health of a program and the league than the Big East bully staying around. Should UConn win two of the next three Big East championships, those two BCS appearances will help the Huskies hop in the passing lane with Pittsburgh and roll right past Penn State in the Northeast recruiting wars. The Big East is where the ACC was before Florida State joined in 1992: It's one of the nation's best basketball conferences and the worst major football conference. So what? Two years before FSU joined the ACC, Georgia Tech won a share of the national title. It's not good for the collective ego, but the quality-of-life index in the Big East rose when the Canes left town. The league never was going to get two teams in the BCS, anyway, and it won't lose any of its bowl tie-ins. The only uncertainty is the value of television contracts; ESPN is trying to restructure its remaining four years with the Big East because of the shakeup. But winning eventually will cure those ills, too. And if it doesn't, you better believe the BCS honchos won't leave their brethren hooked to life support. The BCS administrators easily could have taken away the Big East's automatic bid but decided against it. At some point, if the Big East is failing, those same men who control college football might take drastic measures and give Notre Dame an ultimatum. The Irish are part of the party because BCS administrators allow it. With Notre Dame interest at an all-time low -- don't be surprised if NBC tries to renegotiate its contract with the school next year after another subpar Irish season -- what better way to re-energize a program and a league than a marriage of convenience? Losing Miami is the best thing that ever happened to the Big East. It's just going to take time and vision to see it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted June 7, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted June 7, 2004 not sure i agree, but i hope that it is true taht the Big East is better off with us, UL, and UC, etc than Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulls96go Posted June 11, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 724 Content Count: 10,219 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted June 11, 2004 why did the BE not get a BCS tie in for the champ when UM was here like the SEC or Big 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted June 11, 2004 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,751 Content Count: 37,676 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Our Beloved BULLS NEED to be the Beast of the East !Go BULLS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnus34 Posted June 11, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,103 Content Count: 1,741 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/2004 Author Share Posted June 11, 2004 BULLS96, Maybe I don't understand what you are getting at, but the Big East was part of the BCS and the Orange Bowl was the Big East tie in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted June 16, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted June 16, 2004 if bulls can't dominate big east future will not be pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuseroc Posted June 17, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 11 Content Count: 49 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/13/2003 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Whether USF dominates the BE or not, your future is much better off in the BE than Independant or in CUSA. I expect USF to be the next K State. I cant say VTech since they only had a couple of real good years. But USF will be ok in the BE. No one expects USF to dominate the BE the way Miami did, but If USF could just get past Vtech's level, everything would be fine. I really think that with BCS access, USF and Cincy will benefit the most. Louisville is already really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulls96go Posted June 20, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 724 Content Count: 10,219 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted June 20, 2004 BULLS96,   Maybe I don't understand what you are getting at, but the Big East was part of the BCS and the Orange Bowl was the Big East tie in.does the BE champ go to the orange bowl when the orange is not up for the NC?the pac10/big10 tie in is what gives rose bowl so much clout. sugar the sec, fiesta the big12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted June 20, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted June 20, 2004 usf better dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnus34 Posted June 20, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,103 Content Count: 1,741 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/2004 Author Share Posted June 20, 2004 Bulls96,   Yes the Big East 1st place team did go to the Orange Bowl, if they were not selected to the TITLE GAME.    That changed this year however, and the Orange Bowl has switched to the A.C.C. as their tie-in. The second place team goes to the Orange Bowl, if the 1st place team is in the TITLE GAME. There may be an option on that, depending on the standing of the 2nd place team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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