Who should pay in the NC game?

[smazza]

If undefeated Rutgers is not picked, then the BCS is once again a failure.

I disagree. Rutgers is going to finish with a very bad SOS (Jerry Palm has it in the 50-65 range, depending on multiple results), Rutgers did not play a good OOC schedule and it will be debilitating to their hopes.

Steve Politi, a columnist for the Newark Star-Banner, says many inside Rutgers have conceded that a lot has to happen for them to see the title game, simply because they didn't start ranked, their SOS isn't going to help them, and they have had many close calls which have led voters to question their abilities. They have decided NOT to lobby for a BCS title position and even instructed Coach Schiano to avoid questions dealing with the BCS Title game and his team's worthiness.

The BCS wasn't created to put the two "0" loss teams together, it was created to put the best two teams in the country together for a more definitive national title.

I see people on here rip the BCS a lot, about how it's an unfair system, how it is just a mess, how it doesn't work. However, without the BCS do you think Rutgers, Louisville, or WVU would even SNIFF the title game? NO! In fact WVU finished a undefeated regular season in 1993, they weren't even in the conversation because they were WVU. Rutgers finished undefeated (11-0) in 1976, what did they get? The 17th ranking and didn't get invited to a bowl game.

The point is we as USF fan should thank our lucky stars for the BCS, because before it was around, if the ACC raided the BE, there would be NO contractual relationship making the BE privy to the hierarchy of college football. They would be left to rot with teh MVC and C-USA

Yes, Rutgers is undefeated, they are a very good team. Would they beat Louisville if they played again? Maybe. However, even as a USF and BE fan, I have a VERY hard time objectively saying the system failed if it leaves out a team who has played the schedule Rutgers had.

rutgers is going to get smoked by wv

and this will prove they arent a top 10 team because they cant beat a quality team on the road

wv,ul and ru are pretenders not contenders for the NC

[smazza]

well regardless who plays in the national title game, if rutgers finishes undefeated and wins their bowl game there will be a BCS champion and a split AP champ i bet.  similar to what happened with LSU

ru would never be voted ap champion this year

never

[smazza]

UF hasn't been dominating teams.  Neither has Texas.  Even OSU and Michigan had letdown games, but at least they didnt LOSE.  Who did UF play that was SO brutal other than auburn (which they lost to) and Tenn?  Tennesee isnt ranked as highly as either WVU OR Rutgers.  Losing to a good team, while not as bad as losing normally is, should NEVER help a team with a loss get past  team that doesnt have one.

Don't go spouting that UGA and Vandy are so terrific either.  I'm not going to say that RU SOS is harder or even quite as hard as UF's, but if Rutgers is undefeated it will have played enough top teams that the school should leap past the gators.  Same goes for Texas (are nebraska and oklahoma, and TAMU really THAT much better than Rutgers' top conference opposition this season?)

If RU doesnt get in undefeated (which is a big assumption mind you) then the system will indeed have failed.  That doesn't mean it's worse than the old school pick whoever you feel like it days of 1 or even 2 loss teams winning the NC on a whim, but it's still a failure.

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look who uf has beaten

wv,ul and ru probably would have 3-4 loses  each  if they played uf's schedule

[Joe]

UF hasn't been dominating teams.  Neither has Texas.  Even OSU and Michigan had letdown games, but at least they didnt LOSE.  Who did UF play that was SO brutal other than auburn (which they lost to) and Tenn?  Tennesee isnt ranked as highly as either WVU OR Rutgers.  Losing to a good team, while not as bad as losing normally is, should NEVER help a team with a loss get past  team that doesnt have one.

Don't go spouting that UGA and Vandy are so terrific either.  I'm not going to say that RU SOS is harder or even quite as hard as UF's, but if Rutgers is undefeated it will have played enough top teams that the school should leap past the gators.  Same goes for Texas (are nebraska and oklahoma, and TAMU really THAT much better than Rutgers' top conference opposition this season?)

If RU doesnt get in undefeated (which is a big assumption mind you) then the system will indeed have failed.  That doesn't mean it's worse than the old school pick whoever you feel like it days of 1 or even 2 loss teams winning the NC on a whim, but it's still a failure.

Rutgers will have beaten two good teams.

USC - 5 - Arkansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Cal, ND. With Wazzou possibly moving back into the rankings with a few wins.

It would be very hard for me to cry about Rutgers being left out of the title game. As the people closely associated to the program don't even believe they are a top 5 team.

[PitBull]

guys, RU still has to finish their schedule.. sure, they are the cinderella story of the year and did what no other program could do in this century so far (which was build a national contender out of nowhere in 5 years), but do you guys honestly believe that they will survive Morgantown?

UL deserved the win vs. WVU, but you cant really handicap turnovers and i think WV is a MUCH better offensive machine than that outcome.  coulda/woulda/shoulda's aside, playing against WVU in morgantown is probably one of the toughest tasks for ANY program to face.

when WVU wins, it will put all speculation to the side, and the nod will go to other 1-loss teams.

has anyone brought up the notion that it could be an OSU-UM championship?  the BCS computers dont factor chronology into SOS, so even though OSU would lose, they may not slip out of the top 2 to place them in the NC game (see oklahoma losing to k-state a few yrs back)