Bullshiznitz Posted April 15, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted April 15, 2004 He had 3 MVP's as a Pirate. Yeah I guess he sucked back then, HUH? The gold gloves, the 30-30 years, the 40-40 year, the nearly 500 HR's he had before '01. Before '01, he lead the NL in OBP 4 times, in SLG % 3 times, in OPS 5 times, in BB's 6 times and HR's once. Yeah, I guess he only got good once he was on roids ??? (which once again, we have no proof of, but what do you all care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 15, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I see my evidence everyday on sportscenter when his head doesn't fit in the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshiznitz Posted April 15, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Yes, thats real proof, someones face getting chubbier as they get older. I guess I must be on roids then too. Did notice you didnt comment on his stats though, sorry but no one has much arguement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 15, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 15, 2004 its not chubby, his face has muscles, he is built like a f'n rock... 40 year old can't get in that type of shape... hey, its just my opinion, and a whole slew of others... i'm not asking you to subscribe to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 16, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 He had 3 MVP's as a Pirate. Yeah I guess he sucked back then, HUH? The gold gloves, the 30-30 years, the 40-40 year, the nearly 500 HR's he had before '01. Before '01, he lead the NL in OBP 4 times, in SLG % 3 times, in OPS 5 times, in BB's 6 times and HR's once. Yeah, I guess he only got good once he was on roids ??? (which once again, we have no proof of, but what do you all care).I didnt get to see many Pirate games as they weren't on tv much though I believe I saw all their playof games back then and I dont recall Bonds doing anything in playoffs at all. I know he did all right in playoffs when he was juiced up but dont recall him doing anything in those clean MVP years. I will give Bonds props for his numbers as they are outstanding but after so many years of being such a jerk and then the whole baroid thing I just dot give two craps about the guy. Now Willie Mays, there is some ballplayer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 21, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted April 21, 2004 kr- did you even own a tv when bonds was a pirate?bonds is the greatest offensive force ever(maybe babe was better)\when all said and done , bonds will be a .300 hitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 22, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 kr- did you even own a tv when bonds was a pirate?bonds is the greatest offensive force ever(maybe babe was better)\when all said and done , bonds will be a  .300 hitterOf course I had a TV when Bonds played for Pirates. Why would you ask that? Teddy ballgame is a bigger offensive force then bonds hands down but I am not getting into that with you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted April 26, 2004 bullshtz doesn't need my help he seems to have all facts and figures he needs at his disposalone cannot assume bonds is on steroids just because of the way he looks according to the most renown experts in the steroid fieldi think we all know we each of us stands on this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I think you can assume he is on steroids for the way he looks... that is how suspicion(sp?) is born, then on top of that, the balco thing is just more evidence that makes us more suspicious.There are renown experts on both sides of this, so saying experts say we can't assume doesn't mean he isn't... fine... don't assume, let the evidence speak, his body and his trainer are damning evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsRule Posted April 26, 2004 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 2,464 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2003 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 bullshtz doesn't need my help he seems to have all facts and figures he needs at his disposalone cannot assume bonds is on steroids just because of the way he looks according to the most renown experts in the steroid  fieldi think we all know we each of us stands  on this topicPlease feel free to post what the foremost experts on steroids had to say about Bonds. I find that highly suspicious if the top roid researchers woould not question that giant headed freak. I do see Balco owner has named 27 athletes that were supplied with roids and Bonds is on that list. Did he give them out as halloween treats? Exactly where are the so called roids he was supplied with? Are they with the WMD's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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