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Explain to me how this makes any sense... if you can't do it right then you obviously can't do it, thus your unqualified to have the job that you do... if the consultants are so skilled then maybe we should make them our University President.

Given the track record of the BEast I fear that its gonna be a basketball douche

Alvarado has been pretty solid... hopefully they keep him away from field goal duty...

Will we have another WWP design? If so hopefully they do away with that crappy striped shiz they did last year and bring back the digi camo...

I did mention it would be comical to let it go on and I was not disappointed. Watch this. Anyone making 6 figures who hires anyone to do anything is a rube and a fool. Go. They're not a rube or fool... but a car salesman on steroids... the rubes and fools are the people that hired someone and paid them 6 figures, then allowed them to outsource their only job duties to someone else while they sit around and play solitaire and scratch their twigs and berries. yea again, because a University President's only job is to get a sweet TV deal, or a University AD's only job is to get a sweet TV deal. That is like 0.005% of it and really only a part of it that came about in the last 15 years. Doug Wollard has more athletic and business connections across this country than you could shake a stick at yet he probably doesn't know a whole lot about how broadcast deals are brokered in 2012. yet there are about 15-20 people who do and probably 10-12 of them work for the networks brokering the deals. so yea, we could use some help. get over it. In a real conference it is the job of the AD's to work together to get a lucrative TV deal... look at the SEC or Big12 for proof of this Not confused at why so many are surppoting laziness. So basically there is not one faculty member at any BEast school that could be put to work to negotiate a new TV deal? I guess we have a bunch of toothless rejects from WV teaching ours and every other BEast business course.

Do you know what a University President does? A large % of their job duties is to negotiate deals and lobby for political items with the government. Dealing with the government is a lot more difficult then sitting down with some NBC executives. This is just laziness that costs the conference $$... the SEC or Notre Dame didn't bring in consultants to negotiate their cup cake TV deals, they suited up and did it themselves. i can't tell you how wrong you are... media deals are insanely complex and if i was commish of the big east... knowing this is the biggest moment in conference history... i'd hire people with a proven track record of success in this arena. How complex can it be... X amount of $ per game, for this sport, for X amount of years... I **** more complex things then that

I did mention it would be comical to let it go on and I was not disappointed. Watch this. Anyone making 6 figures who hires anyone to do anything is a rube and a fool. Go. They're not a rube or fool... but a car salesman on steroids... the rubes and fools are the people that hired someone and paid them 6 figures, then allowed them to outsource their only job duties to someone else while they sit around and play solitaire and scratch their twigs and berries.

Mama Bull I respectively beg to differ on this issue and believe that we do have the in house resources to negotiate a major TV deal... its called leaning on your experts... the SEC does it, the Big12 does, the B1G does it, the ACC does it... but somehow we can't? We have tons of untapped resources that are just sitting on the shelves getting dusty and fat off of hefty pay checks. Minus UCF, the Big East has what 16-17 world class Colleges of Business... this is all the resources we need. After all who trained and educated the consultants... they don't grow them in fields somewhere. By going out and hiring a consultant firm says to me that every school of business of each Big East member school is inferior to a boiler room styled consultant firm. There is NOTHING to suggest, based on past history, that the Big East would do the best job, if they tried to do this on their own. I give them credit for realizing that. We don't need to keep repeating the same mistakes. Yes but doesn't the Big East bring in consultants or outside aides for everything they negotiate? Wasn't the last failed TV contract attempt partially negotiated by the ex NFL commish who was on payroll as a consultant of sorts? The ex NFL commish was NOT on the Big East payroll. I'm not in favor of hiring consultants just to shirk personal responsibility. But, THESE particular consultants have a recent proven track record by negotiating a great Pac 12 deal. They have the requisite expertise for this particular job. Anyway, whatever they recommend would still need the final approval of the Big East. Well I hope that they can get us a good deal, don't get me wrong... Mo money, mo money... my main issue is about how the Big East which is made up of some world class schools has to get help to do something that they should not need help to do. I see it as a waste of $$ due to laziness on the part of the Big East Board and a under utilization of the Big Easts sparse financial resources. For example if I went into my bosses office and told him that we should hire out a consultant to do my job for me because I can't do it then I would get fired. However I guess when you get to a certain level of employment common sense is tossed out the window. Oh well we all will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

After watching this it somehow makes me feel more confident... nice to see them out there hustling...

Mama Bull I respectively beg to differ on this issue and believe that we do have the in house resources to negotiate a major TV deal... its called leaning on your experts... the SEC does it, the Big12 does, the B1G does it, the ACC does it... but somehow we can't? We have tons of untapped resources that are just sitting on the shelves getting dusty and fat off of hefty pay checks. Minus UCF, the Big East has what 16-17 world class Colleges of Business... this is all the resources we need. After all who trained and educated the consultants... they don't grow them in fields somewhere. By going out and hiring a consultant firm says to me that every school of business of each Big East member school is inferior to a boiler room styled consultant firm. There is NOTHING to suggest, based on past history, that the Big East would do the best job, if they tried to do this on their own. I give them credit for realizing that. We don't need to keep repeating the same mistakes. Yes but doesn't the Big East bring in consultants or outside aides for everything they negotiate? Wasn't the last failed TV contract attempt partially negotiated by the ex NFL commish who was on payroll as a consultant of sorts?

Mama Bull I respectively beg to differ on this issue and believe that we do have the in house resources to negotiate a major TV deal... its called leaning on your experts... the SEC does it, the Big12 does, the B1G does it, the ACC does it... but somehow we can't? We have tons of untapped resources that are just sitting on the shelves getting dusty and fat off of hefty pay checks. Minus UCF, the Big East has what 16-17 world class Colleges of Business... this is all the resources we need. After all who trained and educated the consultants... they don't grow them in fields somewhere. By going out and hiring a consultant firm says to me that every school of business of each Big East member school is inferior to a boiler room styled consultant firm.

I am familiar with how the business world works... I just expect more from places of higher learning that have "experts" on staff that sit around and make hundreds of thousands of dollars in this field to take the reigns vs. paying some other people an extra hundred thousand or so while our experts sit around and lecture students about the virtues of granola, and recycling. Since I work at USF I see this more and more at the dept. level and it pisses me off... if USF needs a new computer data system for a certain unit they will pay an outside firm and a team of consultants millions of dollars to develop this data system, when we have a bullpen full of expert computer science programers on staff that could have done it for an extra and marginal stipend. Also whenever USF hires a new Director its common for that new Director to turn around and argue for consultants to come in and do their work for them, meanwhile they still get paid the same and just sit back and let the paychecks roll in and do nothing. If this is how the system works then why have a Director at all? Why not just outsource the management of every USF dept to a bunch of consultants and skip the middle person that gets $250K in salary and benefits? I'm just fed up is all... there is no financial accountability anymore and we wonder why China owns us.

Nope, just fed up with places of "higher learning" wasting money on stuff like this... if a group of University Presidents all of which have Ph.D's, whose job is to negotiate contracts/lobby government for $$, and all of which have Business Schools that are full of "experts" have to go out and hire a consultant firm to negotiate a simple TV contract then we have some serious issues. Maybe I'm just not seeing the big picture... perhaps I should hire a consultant to do my shopping for me, negotiate my contracts, and wipe my ass while they are at it.

Vero is nice and is a good new tradition, but unless we can fix our offense then we will likely keep coming up short... hopefully they are working the "O" double time at practice.

Thanks... I have been looking for a good alternative to StubHub...

On second thought I forgot who I was talking about... perhaps this is a good thing, otherwise NBC might talk the Big East into letting Howie Mandel, Sharon Ozborn, and Nick Cannon announce the games, and trade the TV profits for a pile of magical legums.

Do you know what a University President does? A large % of their job duties is to negotiate deals and lobby for political items with the government. Dealing with the government is a lot more difficult then sitting down with some NBC executives. This is just laziness that costs the conference $$... the SEC or Notre Dame didn't bring in consultants to negotiate their cup cake TV deals, they suited up and did it themselves.

Should be a typical Bulls home opener... the FCS team will come out strong for the first quarter, then we will start to get some big plays and before you know it the game will be in the bag.

Also if you want a more traditional college feel then there is a really nice Embassy Suites on USF's main campus

Consultants? IF we NEED consultants then why do we have a BEast Board that is made up of university Presidents and AD's? If a group of people that make over a million each can't figure out how to negotiate a TV contract with NBC, or can't find the time between golf and waking up at noon everyday then we have bigger problems.

The FSU fans are buying up everything... my main fear is that the FSU fans are gonna hog up the season tickets and then RayJay will be pretty much empty for the rest of the season. Only good thing is that I will be able to score some really cheap ass seats to the Futgers and Cuse games since Joe FSU fan is not going to go to anything but the FSU game.

Personally I like the Shepard's Hotel Resort since you have an all you can eat buffet, its on the beach, and they have a decent bar on the water as well. If drinking and eating on the beach is not your thang then you can find plenty of other options that are sans fun. September-October is a dead time for the local beaches so its probably the best place to hit.

Don't believe the 5% bump... its most likely FSU fans buying up cheap season tickets JUST for the FSU game... while our season ticket numbers might go up, I bet that our attendance figures will drop by about 5% in all of the other games this season.

This might be a bad deal for USF... sure they might get the season ticket money from the FSU fans in Tampa, but these fans will not go to any other games, thus we will have a ton of empty seats but will reflect that our season ticket sales went up.

Wonder how much dough we shelled out to this company to implement a ticket pricing structure that could had easily been done for free, assuming of course we still had an inhouse staff in the ticket office. Its not rocket science... charge higher for the FSU, Miami, UF, etc. games... charge a bit less for Rutgers, Pitt, and other Big East games that fall on Saturdays... and then basically give the tickets away for weeknight and cup cake games. USF does the stupidest things sometimes... lets save money by firing our customer service rep's, and then let's turn around and take all of that savings and then some by outsourcing those jobs and a wad of cash to a ticket sales firm and a ticket pricing firm. Brilliant!