outdated stereo-type Are there some still...yes Again, we are athletes, just like any other sport, just an alternative sport. "The Ultimate"'s rules sound like pinko commie crap to me, especially this one- 10) Spirit of the Game -- Ultimate stresses sportsmanship and fair play. Competitive play is encouraged, but never at the expense of respect between players, adherence to the rules, and the basic joy of play. I bet at the end of the game you guys all sit around smoking your hippy lettuce, making sure everyone gets an award and congratulating one another for at least trying your best. Get over it the war is over and the man won, now go cut your hair, take a bath, change your name from "moonchild" to Bob and get a job. HAHAHAHAHA.....H.O.F.!!!!!