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LOL, there must be some common reason for that kind of dream. I have the same related dream for the army. They call me up and tell me I am still on active duty. I am no shrink but I feel like these were stressful environments that are no longer applicable. My conscious mind knows it is not important anymore but my subconscious isn't so sure. Every once in a while it kicks out a dream to double check. Given how the amount of stress this is causing and impacting to his career I bet Kean will join the forgotten college class dream club someday.

I agree. He wants to be the starting QB he really needs to have all his ducks in a row. On a side note, even as a middle aged man I still have a recurring dream where I signed up for classes and never attended or forgot all about them. The dream always starts the day of the final and me wondering what affect it will have on me grade point average.

Got it. You never know around here.

Due to injuries to the starters...and that speaks more about how thin we typically are than anything else.

All banks do. The only people who aren't VP's are the tellers.

I would have loved the Cigar City Arena or something.

What kind of fool would come on a message board if he didn't already know everything there is to know? I certainly do know. This all got me thinking this afternoon so I compiled a list of all the criteria and metrics that determine a school's P5 worthiness. I fed them into the mainframe at work. It wasn't easy getting time on that thing. The hardest part was tweaking the metrics just so to give what I think is a pretty precise formula. I ran the algorithm several times and posted the results.

Exactly, neither game resemble football today. Rutgers has a better claim to National Champion then UCF. The first ever college football national championship was awarded retroactively to the two teams. Princeton was named the champion by the Billingsley Report and the National Championship Foundation, while college football research historian Parke H. Davis named Rutgers and Princeton co-champions. Various other ratings and retrospectives have rated the teams differently.

I agree, they are a not all equal. As you said, even if we exceeded Wake Forrest or Vandy in every category it would not guarantee an invite. Being a directional school is one issue as well as being in the same state as FSU, Miami and UF. They would not want to share leagues.

Well at least it would give us a place of our own to sit while we're waiting.

I think that is because there are many metrics that need to be satisfied and we have some covered but not all. Some of these programs were grandfathered in and that is a metric as well. After nearly 2000 pages we all know them: Attendance Market Size Geographic location (proximity to rivals or other league members) Academics Student body size/Alumni base Tradition Facilitates (including OCS) Notice I didn't add on the field performance which would be why Boise was never asked and Rutgers was. Boise had the performance but few, if any, of the others. So I guess we agree. We are also hindered by the directional school stigma. It could possibly be a deal breaker for some leagues. To those who say that we have better attendance that a few grandfathered bottom feeders, I would say that is meaningless.

How are we any better that Rutgers? They are benefiting from their location and market size just like a lot of people around here are proposing we do. If we are asking to be placed in a league based of on the field results our wish has been granted. Rutgers has better academics and location that we do. For what it is worth they might be a sucky history but only one team can say they won the first college football game ever played about 150 years ago.

They earned that by being founding members decades before USF was even a school. They have built up relationships and rivalries that drive attendance and tradition most within driving distance. Other than on ESPN or on a chat board, who would be talking about and talking smack over Kansas or ISU vs USF? Who would care? Nobody because we are not national teams. I think it would be great if we could play in an regional Florida league. It would be great for attendance and possibly even recruiting as high school kids can continue playing each other at the next level. Would anyone care at the national level? Nope. But it would be a better fan experience.

We still need to win, we need more fans. We are more competitive or whatever than some of the bottom feeders in those leagues but that is not going to convince anyone. "We suck slightly less than a team you have a 100 year history with" is not a winning argument.

The one at the student center where I went to college let you specify how much money you wanted down to the penny. Actually as a college student it was great being able to take out $1.67 when that was all you had in the account.

I think we win at least 8 games.

This sums things up. We have no idea whether there is a problem at QB or not based on this move. If CCS reached out to him then that implies he either didn't like what he saw in Brett or Chris or he saw Barnett play and took a shot at asking him to come here regardless. We may never know but one thing is certain, it will be endlessly debated here and when it all said and done there will be winners and losers but who they are will also be the subject of endless debate.

According to this article he is coming? http://www.bradenton.com/sports/college/article210772079.html

You lost me. It's cool.

Bridgewater

I bet he is no Ironside though.

He probably feels he deserves more jumbotron time than the Wizard so expect a twitter rant coming.

Thanks, I liked the intensity I saw I'm Sands during limited action. The kid ran with a chip on his shoulder.

I feel like you mixed a couple of metaphors there or something but I totally agree. I do have a question for the board because I am not up to speed. Who are our power backs and who are the shifty fast guys?

He is upset that the line coach did not give him reps, I am sorry but most of us have played football right? Did you behave this way when things didn't seem fair to you? Anyway, he went to the head coach who naturally would defer to the guy he actually hired to manage this kind of thing. As for the voting thing, that must be something they do. I think it is pretty telling that they actually cut him loose though. That means his peers agreed with the coach - red flag number 1. The guy sounds a wee bit entitled to me and that he wasn't good enough to start and the kid didn't agree - when I read between the lines. He then proceeded to take to twitter which is another red flag.