gobulls83

Every conference except the Ivy League has a tournament. The AAC tournament will be in Memphis; all 10 teams in the league will go, with teams ranked 7-10 in the standings playing in the first round and the top six teams getting a bye to the quarterfinals.

How many scholarships does Heath have to work with this year?

Did he notify everyone via a message he left on your desk in the middle of the night a few hours before skipping town? And did he leave less than a year after signing a long term contract? And did he do the exact same thing at his previous job, except with even more lying? And then get fired from his next job for being a dishonest dickhead? If the answer to any of those questions is no, then it is not at all comparable. This isn't an isolated incident, and I don't know why people continue trying to make it one. This is who Bobby Petrino is.

Subway has some good stuff. It's good enough to get a $5 footlong when you want a sub but don't want to pay premium. I like JM's. You just don't have as wide a selection of stuff to put in there like you do at Subway, and you'll leave more satisfied than you would at Firehouse. For the money though, Publix subs are probably the best - good bread, good ingredients and good selections of veggies. Ah yeah of course, how could I forget Publix subs, the best subs ever invented. Not living in Florida anymore, I had forgotten about that. Mmmm, now I want a chicken finger sub from Publix.

It would help if you linked to the one you are talking about, so we know what you mean by low quality. Here is a complete USF highlight reel from that game, but it's probably not the quality you're looking for. It's always fun to watch nonetheless:

Agreed GaUSFBull, which is a shame, because I love their subs. Jersey Mike's is even better, but even more overpriced. It's made worse by the fact that the only size subs they have are six inches or 15 inches. What the **** is that? I can't eat Subway.

I don't mean this as a commentary on McGee, who I don't really have an opinion of, but it's totally laughable to say this 2-10 team would have gone on the road and beaten a team that finished the season 13-1 and ranked No. 3 in the country if he was the coach. Is it theoretically possible? Yes, in the same way it was theoretically possible for them to go win with Taggart as coach. There is nobody in the world who could have been coach and would have made it not stupid to definitively say "they would have won."

How does a coach quitting ruin a bunch of families? Seems a bit of a stretch there... I would imagine Petrino leaving put all the assistant coaches' jobs in jeopardy. Total guess, but I think anyone who wasn't a major coach - I mean like training staff, whatever other "lower" positions are there - who was hired at Petrinio's recommendation probably didn't have much of a chance of keeping their jobs once he pulled his dickhead move. At least assistants like the guy in the story still had the resume to find a new job. Is less than a year a reasonable timeline for an NFL coach when you hire him, before bolting? Of course not. You can't blame some of the employees if they thought they had a little more job security than they actually did. Even if they could find a new job easily, who wants to move to another part of the country mere months after doing it once for a job with the Falcons? In any case, I think the coach who said that probably knows more about the situation than we do. Obviously he didn't sign a lifetime contract and, legally at least, he's free to leave whenever he wants. But to not even talk to your players and staff about it in person? To have them find out by seeing a note you snuck into the locker room in the middle of the night to leave them? It's amazing that people just keep saying over and over, "coaches leave all the time," as if that means all situations are automatically equal. People leave their non-football jobs all the time, that doesn't mean there isn't a right way and a wrong way to do it; Petrino has repeatedly chosen that wrong way. Hell, the fact that Petrino did it the way he did in Atlanta shows that he KNOWS it was a scumbag move. Why else would he be afraid to face the team? What a loser.

The loss to Memphis was never anything but expected, regardless of what they've done since.

Since apparently assistant coaches' opinions of him are relevant, let's see what one of his former assistants has to say about this stand-up guy:

This is a stupid question. It's because the media found out about it anyway and forced him to fess up. After he first lied and said it didn't happen, of course. Again, writing it off as "lots of people are ********" doesn't cut it - very few coaches, if any, have the track record of dishonesty and screwing over their employers that Petrino does. Being the biggest ******* in a group full of ******** might make it even worse. You said this was the same as any coach who changes jobs, and it very clearly isn't. And if his behavior were irrelevant to his ability to do his job, he never would have been fired at Arkansas. Of course it is relevant.

"Petrino deserves every bit of criticism about what happened with the girl, but the reality is that there probably isn't more than a handful of coaches, if there are even any, that didn't take a job that was a better situation, better pay or higher up the food chain of schools." It's not the same thing. It's not just that Petrino took a better job, it's that he never stops looking for a better job, and will lie through his teeth every step of the way. He was at Louisville four seasons, and every single offseason he interviewed for other jobs. Then, he signed a 10-year extension that HE suggested to Jurich as a sign that he was committed to Louisville, and six months later bolted. Several of the job interviews he did were in slimy, secretive fashion - including interviewing for an Auburn job in secret when the position was still filled by Petrino's supposed "mentor" and "friend" Tommy Tubberville (this was in 2002, I believe). He apologized, then did the exact same thing again with LSU when they decided to hire Les Miles. He can't help but lie - it would be more shocking if he started telling the truth. In Atlanta, it was the same - he snuck out the back door before the season was over, and was such a coward about it that he couldn't even tell the players, so he instead stuck a short note to his players' lockers in the middle of the night. Just because other coaches leave for better jobs too doesn't mean they are all equally honest, trustworthy or honorable. If Petrino had left just one job under questionable circumstances, it would be forgivable, he might be entitled to the benefit of the doubt; but three consecutive jobs? In the slimiest circumstances imaginable? No, that is not the same as Skip Holtz leaving East Carolina for USF. Not at all.

He meant Rudd tied his season-high - tonight was his third 23-point game of the season. Rudd has gone over 23 points four times in his career.

It's unfortunate that to some people, the only two possibilities are everything is amazing and USF is going to compete for a conference title, or everything is a disaster and USF might as well discontinue its athletic department. Not accusing you of that, of course, Trip. Heath's performance was a positive in a season that so far has been depressingly void of them. Some people just have to rain on the parade. Not saying he's going to lead the conference in assists - of course not, this was against a pretty bad team. But since when is that the only standard by which a performance can be called promising? He had a good game tonight, there's nothing wrong with just stating that, and leaving it at that for now.

Josh Heath had five assists in 19 minutes off the bench tonight. Here are the top six in the conference in assists per game, with their minutes per game in parentheses: Shabazz Napier, UConn: 5.7 (34.8) Russ Smith, Louisville: 4.9 (27.3) Nic Moore, SMU: 4.6 (32.3) Myles Mack, Rutgers: 4.4 (31.9) Jerome Seagears, Rutgers: 4.2 (25.4) Will Cummings, Temple: 4.2 (34.3) Also worth noting: Anthony Collins has averaged 5.9 assists and 31.4 minutes per game, but doesn't qualify for the leader board because he has only played eight games.

There is only one player in the conference averaging more than five assists per game, and only five other guys averaging more than four per game. You scoff at five assists (off the bench, no less) like it's nothing - it shows you don't actually follow the sport. I haven't seen anyone say he's going to "turn the season around" - nice strawman. That doesn't mean he isn't worth getting excited about.

Ever? That seems hard to believe. Not calling you a liar. Just, shocking if that's what you're saying.

Pretty soon the only ones you'll be able to interact with will be mike, Ambien, knightro, Goldie, fnf and Knight_Light .... He still reads it though, and is pretty transparent about it. In another thread, one of the people he claims to ignore made a post directed at him, and he responded by quoting the "you are ignoring this user" thing that appears. How did he know the post was directed at him if he didn't look? It just makes his, "I'm ignoring you" proclamations even more childish. Embarrassing, really. But not as embarrassing as the arguments he puts forth.

It's because they play in the Sun Belt, the worst athletic conference ever devised. There were nine teams in the whole country that were bowl eligible but not invited to a bowl game, and five of them were in the Sun Belt. (The other four: One from Conference USA, one from the Mountain West, and two from the MAC.)

"Apparently it's not worth nearly what KD is asking for it." You know Keeley Dorsey is dead, right?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigeast/2006-07-13-louisville-petrino_x.htm That's from July 2006, when Petrino signed the 10-year deal (which was Petrino's idea) with the $1 million buyout (which was Petrino's idea) because "Louisville is home" (Petrino's words). Six months later, Tom Jurich was left searching for a new coach because Petrino bolted. Amazing that Petrino can say this **** with a straight face, and amazing that Jurich can actually sit there and listen to it. They both look like fools.

If "hindsight" isn't a good enough reason to fire someone, then nobody would ever be fired from any job anywhere. You don't know something is a mistake until it has already happened. Of course people would love Woolard if the Holtz deal had worked out - but it didn't work out, so who cares how people would have felt if it had? What would it take to get Woolard (or anyone else in any position anywhere) fired if past mistakes aren't a good enough reason? Looking into the future and seeing those mistakes? If it had worked, and somebody said, "we shouldn't praise Woolard, because if the deal had failed he would have been an idiot," then that person would be making a nonsense argument. So it is in this case, too.

Smazza was right You missed the part where he called it a good hire: http://thebullspen.com/index.php/topic/2627-athletic-director-announcement/page-4#entry26295 To be fair, smazza was far from the only one.

You understand you're saying exactly the same thing as me, right?

Bingo, a perfect illustration of why any school is silly to hire this guy. Thank you for dragging this thread up. I bet Western Kentucky are really thrilled they went that route now. And in a year or two, when Petrino is sneaking around trying to find yet another job, Louisville will be wondering why they went back to him. USF could have had Petrino, but then right now the university would be going through its third head coaching hire in four years. I'm not totally convinced Taggart is the man to lead USF to glory, but he's a hell of a lot better than Petrino, that is for sure. I am also happy that we didn't hire Petrino, but the only reason people are after him instead of Taggart this year (or in your words, why we aren't already having to hire another coach) is that Petrino had a good season and Taggart had an awful one. I don't believe that's true. Or at least, I don't think that Taggart would jump at the first decent offer that came his way. Petrino actively sought other jobs every single year he was at Louisville, then left Atlanta after less than a season. That's at least five straight years of searching for a new job while already employed. I get what you're saying - I suffer no delusions that Taggart is here for life. USF already fired the only coach who would have been here for life. But there are still differences from one coach to the next, and not all coaches are desperate to be on the move year after year after year the way Petrino is.