The OSU band is horrible. Did anyone see them perform at the BCS Championship? They're embarassing. Not only are they not the best band in the land, they're not even the best band in the state of Ohio. That having been said, you'll never see them on the field with flips. EVER. Their crappy pep band has been sighted with flips at hockey games on occasion. The Ohio Marching 110, on the other hand, is a non-music band in all performances and locations. That's been the policy in Athens since the 70's at the very least, back when they were the "110 Marching Men of Ohio." Even alumni aren't allowed to use music on band day -- you're expected to know your music and tech when you show up on campus. TBDBITL's show as filmed by Fox at the BCS Nat'l Championship Game is by no means a measure of the program. Here's the same show, filmed with a stationary camera: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7729292003189598739&pr=goog-sl Don't get me wrong though, I love the 110 too... and they don't have to be the SWAC North or anything else, they are what they are--a VERY good program of their own right. And the MAC's no slouch of a marching conference either. And now, to be on topic, my opinion is no flips on the field. But whatever.