USFbulls24

That is true it is about time. 34 years to beat their first legit ranked team? Wow. As bad as it gets for us I'll have comfort in knowing it can never be that bad. They beat Memphis, ranked #13 a few years back. They ended the season ranked, something USF has never done. They beat Houston who was so overrated it was embarrassing to the college football world at the time. Tough for me to count that. I don't mean count it as a win I mean count it as something worth noting. Go read up on Case Keenum and the records he broke. When you throw the ball 70 times a game people are going to break records. But yea Keenum was good.

That is true it is about time. 34 years to beat their first legit ranked team? Wow. As bad as it gets for us I'll have comfort in knowing it can never be that bad. They beat Memphis, ranked #13 a few years back. They ended the season ranked, something USF has never done. They beat Houston who was so overrated it was embarrassing to the college football world at the time. Tough for me to count that. I don't mean count it as a win I mean count it as something worth noting.

That is true it is about time. 34 years to beat their first legit ranked team? Wow. As bad as it gets for us I'll have comfort in knowing it can never be that bad.

That's been obvious for a couple years. But on the other hand, if UCF can get better, so can USF. Difference is UCF moved up and improved their conference. We took a step backwards with our conference and continue to take a step backwards with our play on the field. It'll catch up. I have no doubt we'll compete in our conference in like 3 or 4 years but I don't think we'll ever have the potential we once had again.

This absolutely crushes USF. UCF is USF of 2006/2007. They now have two good wins (Penn St, and a very good legit win @UL) , they're in the driver's seat (albeit in a trash conference) in the AAC, and they will be ranked in the top 25 after this game which will get recruits attention big time. UCF is a better football program than us now and that will continue for the foreseeable future. Absolutely depressing...

Man what I would give to have some people's confidence or optimism on these boards...

Yea that was a typo. My bad... Miami did block him from transferring to Alabama or Georgia. And what in the heck is your point LOL? I'm the one who has been talking up Storm Johnson this whole time saying he has no business playing for a team like UCF when he should be at The University of Miami, FSU, Alabama, Georgia etc. Do you not read?

what hiccup? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/358565-south-florida-bulls-kicker-marvin-kloss-arrested-for-grand-theft

Miami BLOCKED*****

You must not remember the days of Delbert Alvarado..

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A snob..? What did I say that is incorrect? Storm Johnson is a stud and an NFL talent. There is a reason he chose to and had the chance to attend the University of Miami to play college football (Also had the chance to play for FSU, Michigan State and a few others if I remember correctly). If things don't go awry with coaches getting fired, a new coach coming in etc he is nowhere near UCF's football team. I never said it was a "bad decision" because anywhere he went he was going to play and its ending up being a very good decision for him. But for the time being ucf's offense is a heck of a lot better than what it would be with whatever other RB would be playing instead. You also must not be aware that UCF BLOCKED Storm Johnson from transferring to Georgia and Alabama. Or according to you ucf probably belongs in that conversation? Haha. Get a clue.

How many ranked teams have you beaten in 30+ years as a football program? You want to rejoice and be happy about beating up on Memphis and SMU and East Carolina for a few conference USA conference championships? Ha, go for it... We'll hang our hat on beating programs such as Clemson, Notre Dame, Auburn, FSU, Miami. I must say though your 10-6 win over a 6-7 Georgia team was awfully impressive (give me a break). Must be sad that your programs "signature win" is that. LOL.

Ha... Don't you love those remarks? I've had a few friends of mine actually play on the team and I used to ask each one what's the worst place you had to play in. All 3 of them said "ucf hands down" because of the stuff fans used to say to them. In order to feel good about themselves they had to have their thought process be "I can't believe USF is afraid to play us" when in reality we all know we wanted bigger/better things for USF football than to play ucf every year so we separated ourselves from them. I loved that Leavitt did that. He wanted to create a mini rivalry with one of the big 3 schools in Florida rather than be linked to ucf forever. Welp.. so much for that.

I hear you.. You make good points. I get the idea of the passing attack is based on route combinations and attack certain parts of the field and all that. But even after reading your explanation "keep the defense in their base defense and make them over compensate to stop the run" the only way that is going to happen is if we are absolutely completely dominate in the run game and that makes me think even more that if Taggart doesn't have every single piece to the puzzle the passing game is going to be dismal to well below average. The only way our WRs are going to get 1 on 1 match-ups consistently throughout a game is again dependent on how dominate the run game is. I guess what I am having trouble with is when it is 3rd and 6+ or an obvious passing down and 75% of the time we're only sending out 3 possible pass catchers, you don't think the numbers game as far as 3 players to catch a pass vs 6 or 7 defenders alone gives the offense and specifically the QB an uphill battle?

http://www.voodoofive.com/2013/10/13/4833390/usf-vs-uconn-play-chart This article is really interesting to me. I know there has been a lot of talk about what would make this offensive scheme work and what the issues are etc on the boards but looking at the actual breakdowns of personnel groupings explains a lot of struggles to me. (sorry if this article was already posted somewhere else, I didn't see it if it was) According to the article we ran 63 plays. 47 of those 63 plays or (75%) had less than 3 WR on the field. On Running plays I could care less how many WR's are on the field but on passing plays it seems like it's just setting up whoever is playing QB for failure. What QB is going to be successful when most of the time they have 3 possible options to throw to vs 6 or 7 defenders regardless of how good pass protection is on the play? Our QBs are completing like 40% of their passes, well yea who the heck is going to be open when its 3 on 7? The only way I can see this scheme being successful is if we're so dominant at running the football, (dominant being top 5 in the country) that defenses have to start playing like mini goal-line defensive schemes to try and stop the run so they have 5 or 6 down lineman rather than 4 and then its 3 possible pass catchers vs 5 defenders. I know what Taggart is working with is not ideal but reading things like "USF won a football game against a 0-5 team without passing their opponents 26 yard-line on offense" is pretty ridiculous. I am not saying Taggart should run a spread or a different style of offense, but watching this week in and week out as well as reading stats and these articles it makes me believe this offensive scheme will not be worth anything unless Taggart has every single piece to the puzzle. A dominant Oline, very good WR/TEs, a very good RB, and an even better QB. Call me negative but I just do not see us getting the pieces good enough to be a good offense in this scheme anytime in the near future (2-4 years) mainly because the pieces good enough to make us a good offense will be attending Stanford and big time schools like that rather than here. Let's hope our Defense is so good that them alone will be able to make us an above .500 team over the next few years.

I read it is his first offer so I will take this with a grain of salt. If he's good many more offers will come in and we may be playing the commit/de-commit game between now and this time next year. Glad to see Taggart making things continue to happen on the Recruiting trail though.

So I am not comparing USF/ucf to UF/FSU or FSU/Miami type of stuff but that is where its headed. Do I think it'll ever get that big? Probably not. But there is legit hate between FSU/UF FSU/Miami. Of course there is a certain respect but to pretend like their won't be personal hatred between USF/ucf like there is at the others is a little off.

This maybe true. However, it is all about popularity, advertising, and money. And when comparing recent popularity between the two without fan bias, popularity sways into the field of UCF due to national TV games and the outcomes of those games. And media will reflect this. One just has to take a step back and see it. Like it or not, it is what it is. As I stated prior though. A program has to win to get the spotlight put on them. Overall potential for both schools is up there. Growth potential, athletic potential, academic potential. People tend to forget in 2007 the spotlight was put onto USF (prior to their conference collapse). Even Mark May on ESPN was making a case how USF should have been #1 and not Ohio State due to strength of schedule and quality wins. Win and the spotlight returns and media coverage returns. (examples: Boise State BCS buster, Hawaii with Colt Brennen, 2007 USF, Utah's undefeated season with Meyer as HC, etc...) You make some points but maybe you need to see how many of those "National TV" games were against quality opponents. With their 10 win season last year and 11 win season 3 years ago they beat a COMBINED 2 teams with a winning record. Which was Ball State and East Carolina. Put USF in Conference USA even with the meltdown Skip Holtz led and we're easily an above .500 team last year. It's all within perspective. UCF has beaten 1 ranked team in their history and it was an overrated University of Houston team a few years back. If a conference were to take them over USF that would be a real head scratcher for me. We climbed the ranks and competed with big time programs so quickly. UCF has yet to prove they can do that and have had a football program for over 30 years...

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There is absolutely no point in burning that kid's redshirt. IF he was on the same level as Bench and Eveld talent wise that doesn't mean he has as firm of a grasp on the offense as they do. IF he was right with them with talent level and understanding/ability to run the offense I don't think this would even be a conversation and we would have already seen White at some point this season. Taggart so badly wants to win (obviously) but he's not stupid. He understands that we're not going to beat Louisville or Rutgers and probably won't beat Houston or UCF. We have a very real chance of finishing the season 3-9. So letting that kid continue to learn the offense and develop for a full year without wasting a year of eligibility or destroying his confidence due to the lack of talent at the other positions is the right move. Unless we have a Johnny Manziel on our hands there is no reason for him to play.

We managed to get by Cincy because they played their worst game in a decade.. We're winning these games with an awful lot of help from our opponents whether it be they're just that bad or playing the worst possible game they could. I am not saying its 100% impossible we don't beat some of the teams left on our schedule specifically Rutgers, UCF, Louisville but I'd be shocked if we win any of those games.

I don't want to be too dramatic here, but lets be honest. We just were very lucky to beat one of the worst teams in college football. I don't know if you can say our program is back on track just yet. Yes I like the direction we are heading, but we might very well end up 2-10 this year. Perfectly said. Slow your roll daly, Louisville may come in and do what Miami did to us, then we're at 5-0 Houston. I think we beat SMU and end up being 3-9. 4-8 at best. I don't think that's "back on track" as a program.

Sorry if this was already asked or posted, but does anyone know where I can find the post game video of Taggart? I googled/youtubed/gousfbullsed and couldn't find anything.

That reflects how really bad our conference has become. Very true. Cincy is not nearly as bad as they played against us but after this year if we don't compete for the AAC conference ship every season something is very wrong. Sad that we'll have to get excited with wins over teams like Tulane, East Carolina, Memphis etc rather than Pitt, Rutgers, West Virginia.