who was first college football

[smazza]

national champ and what year

[BULLO12]

national champ and what year

Princeton in 1869.  Selected by the National Championship Foundation (NCF)

[smazza]

i guess i mean modern day. my resource didn't have that answer

minnesota is the answer 1936 media poll

princeton won theNC  with a 1-1 record but i don't think it is really considered achampionship today

over last 132 years there have been 25 major selector by way of polls,mathematical formulas and historical research

[KnightsRule]

1936 was first AP champ.

[BULLO12]

1936 was first AP champ.

And that was Minnesota ....were they known as the Golden Gophers in 1936?  I don't know...that's why I am asking.

[KnightsRule]

Yale won 18 championships prior to 1936 and Princeton won 14 times.  We will never see an NCAA champion in Football from the Ivy league again that is for sure.  i dont know if Minn was golden gophers or not.

[smazza]

anything before1936 was bogus

because teams played only a handful of games per year

[KnightsRule]

The AP did not vote them champion but there were other media outlets that were naming champs and they did play full schedules a lot of those years. I have a good buddy that was a star athlete at Bama and knows their history well and he sent me some info on Bama all-time champs which are 12. They were AP champ 6 times. In 1926 Bama split champ with Stanford(10-0-1) and Navy(9-0-1) and Bama was 9-0-1.  In 1925 Bama went 10-0 and in 1930 Bama went 10-0 and split champ with Knute Rockne's 10-0 ND team.

One more point, you say it didnt count before 1936 yet everyone is aware of 4 horsemen at notre dame and their championships which were during 1922-1924 seasons.  Knute Rockne died in 1931 so I am not a big believer that before 1936 was bogus.

[smazza]

you gotta believe

i am modern type guy.i don't do pre36 college football

the ncaa must be a modern organization.they don't recognize your horseman, rockne, or any pre  36 championships

hell, yale was the best team in the 19th century and pretty good until  1928

princeton won more football championships than ND if you count 19th century.They DON'T

[KnightsRule]

Smazza

Your nuts man. The NCAA does not recognize Rockne or the Horseman? Where do you get this from? The AP didnt have a champion until 1936, end of story, this does not mean that NCAA does not recognize games before that.  If you want to get technical I wouldn't consider the AP champ to mean anything until 1968 when the AP started choosing the champ AFTER the bowl games. In 1965 they waited until after bowl games also but reverted to before bowl games for 1966 and 1967 seasons. Many times the champ lost their bowl game and would not have been champ.  NCAA must not recognize a lot of talent that I have heard of like famous coaches Pop Warner, John Heisman, Knute Rockne. Superstar players like Red Grange, Walter Camp,.  Funny but the heisman trophy was given out prior to the NCAA recognizing players also?