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He absolutely should get credit for this just as he absolutely should shoulder parts of the blame for the slew of failings. Do you think Trump caused covid-19? (I am guessing not) Do you think he shoulders some of the blame for some of the fallout from it? (I am guessing so). Sometimes when you are in leadership somethings are not entirely your fault but they most certainly are your problem and your responsibility to make better, aside from some nice news about the kicking game everything this staff has touched has been made worse by their efforts and it would be nice to start reversing that trend sooner than later.

Sorry I should have been more clear the situations besides the results and the coaches are about as similar as we are going to find which is what draws me to the conclusion that CJS is playing an active part in his failing season. As you point out he is pretty green so we can hope that he will improve as he goes but I am past ready to see some of that improvement and I do not accept that it is all CCS’ fault and it cannot be solved for three more years.

It seems pretty remarkable that we were just having open tryouts for kickers and now we are having one that is the player of the week. Add that to Noah having some glimmers of hope and we have the makings of and offense that can score a few points.

I will take this as my reason to be hopeful this week, good for you Mr Shrader.

Fair enough but I think I’m just trying to bring balance to the turnaround conversation because increasingly it is appearing the turnaround emperor has no clothes even if others are afraid to say it.

They are more similar than they are different and whatever small differences that may exist should not account for a .350 difference in results, yet here we are.

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IDK that I have one, I just do not care for the failure is inevitable and he is right where we should expect for this moment narrative. Improving a bad situation is possible pretty close to immediately and there is evidence that facing the exact adversity others are able to over come it. CJS is not at current living up to even the lowest of expectations that were set for him coming in and he needs to start getting to the improvement portion of his on boarding. I know apologist posts on here do not necessarily reflect his personal feelings but I guess I worry that he too thinks he is fortune's fool and cannot make the changes necessary to improve today, this attitude will always set people up for the failure we are currently seeing because there is no ownership of your situation which does not give the burning desire necessary to fix it.

I am probably overstating my position just a tad as I am known to do but I think you would be shocked at how close those rankings are between CCS and CSH.

I want him to do better than anyone that we have ever had where we differ on opinions is whether moving forward requires going back to a starting point below anywhere that we have ever been before. In order to start being the best we have to start with the first improvement so that we can move on to continuous improvement. The time to start doing anything better than the people you replaced is now and by this point there should be something tangible that we can hang our hope hats on.

What would you like to talk about?

No one actually wants to fire Jeff Scott or thinks it is actually feasible, they just want him to do better than CCS which apparently is too much to ask so how about at least as well as CCS?

I actually didn’t cherry pick this example and I fully expected to come back with he had more losses than all the other coaches combined because to my recollection most of the comparable situations were not playing this season. That being said this is as comparable of a situation as could exist and they have improved while we have drastically declined, that’s not okay and CJS could and should do better and ought to be held accountable for the part he has played in this season of complete failure.

The most apples to apples comparison appears to be UTSA, they are better off now and are .500 having gone .333 last season. Apparently no one told their staff it was impossible to deliver on the better you were hired to do.

Variables equalize themselves as the weeks progress and our SOS this season is worse than our SOS last season, we aren’t playing ND every week and yet our results remain the same. Last season we also implemented a new system and getting results far better than this resulted in termination. CJS is not unique in any of the adversity he is facing but what is uniquely defining his tenure here is complete and total failure. Not winning a single FBS game while playing in a middling conference that is having an even further down year is enough to have all of your KPIs just be a giant red block, this isn’t what building on improvement looks like.

I was alluding more to the fact that eventually I will die. Only CJL can live forever because he will always have a place in our hearts.

Next year... just like Usf football. I’m sure a time will come in life where I will take forever off.

That’s super funny I was just about to ask you to name a KPI you would say CJS is doing markedly better than CCS in. College football only has two KPIs in my opinion winning and recruiting, if you are losing at all of those things I am sure you can get more granular but ultimately if you aren’t tracking on those things no one gives a ****.

That is not how this development is working but that is most certainly how all development works. You create an improvement you measure that improvement you make improvements to the improvement and then you keep going. We have yet to get our first measurable improvement and that means we aren’t developing, this is called digression.

I think what the students, parents and universities have learned is that while we may need some of these people in the world they are not wisely using anyone’s resources by being at a typical university for four years. At the end of years the only thing anyone learns in the exchange is that this will not help them at all with their career path which will not allow them to pay the debt they accumulated and certainly never contribute to the university at all. They would be just as well served to try to become and artist by going to air conditioning trade school. Not everyone in the world should go to a 4 year university and that we some how perpetuated the lie that it is needed for everyone is why so many people now needing bailed out from their loans.

It should have a fairly straight trend line otherwise it’s not progress it’s hope that one day things will progress, our line fell off a cliff and is now flat across the bottom of the graph. This is the opposite of progress, this is failure at the lowest level.

Semantics. There are plenty of people that say doing something that would be labeled horrible would be great for CJS but they did not say being horrible in and of itself would be great.

Most people would objectively say 1 win 3-4 wins and 6 wins would be horrible and grounds for termination then there is a disconnect when they describe what they think would be a good job for CJS. CJS has taken a path of failure based every bit as much on his decisions as with the players he was left with by CCS. Every day it becomes more clear that there was in fact enough talent to compete in the AAC and once again the coaches are the missing component of that success. He has to do better and there is nothing wrong with having minimum expectations for someone in a position of power.

These are facts but while we have seen plenty of the mistakes it would be nice to at least see a few things that point to learning from them