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what does that have to do with stirrups? he only stole some cameras. Wrong...here is what he was charged with: A) 2 counts of burglary of a conveyance 2 counts of third-degree grand theft C) 1 count of dealing in stolen property D) 1 one count of giving false information to a pawnbroker. E) All of the six above are FELONIES. Let me guess...you are not PRE-LAW...right? Did you even take a CIVICS class in Jr High or HS?

he stole a few cameras.  that doesn't make him the devil.  everyone that burns dvds is a felon too.  ever download music and/or movies?  hum... 1.  He's a THIEF... a dumb one to boot. 2.  He did poorly in HS...he couldn't qualify for admission to USF. It sends the wrong message to reward someone like him a college scholarship when there are  youngmen  who have keep there noses clean and worked hard to do well in HS. 1.  you should also reward people that atone for their mistakes. stealing a few cameras was stupid, but that doesn't say much about his character to me.  Mean breaking/entering into cars that are NOT YOURS and committing SIX Felonies at a place you and your MOTHER WORK AT...doesn't say much about his character???? Wow!!!! Where the heck are YOU from??? If committing felonies at a place that even your MOTHER works at doesn't SHOUT OUT LOW/ZERO Character of a person for you...I have no idea what would for you.

he stole a few cameras.  that doesn't make him the devil.  Devil? Doubtful. Deserving of a $100,000 College Scholarship? Heck NO! As others pointed out in this thread...aren't there HS players out there that HAVEN'T been arrested for felonies and have CLEAN records? I think Greg made a good point in his article in August when he said this about Stirrups: "If he's willing to steal from customers of a business that employs both himself and his own mother, what conscience would stop him from stealing from a teammate's locker?

Actually, UCF's Marching Knights put on a new show for EVERY home game...and oh, no sheet music (flip folders). UCF might have a "best of show" for the last home game of the year, like they did last year when UCF had 7 home games. Just thought I would put in some facts into this discussion. Now...please continue with your Flip Folder Smack (maybe the first one EVER on the internet!).

Ah...yeah...even Greg Auman wrote about how stupid Stirrups was and how he got caught: http://www.sptimesphotos.com/blogs/usf/2006/08/more-thoughts-on-stirrups.html When I called Pearl River Community College, where Stirrups was set to play this fall after failing to qualify academically at USF, coach Tim Hatten was blunt: This was not the kind of activity he'd tolerate in his program, not the kind of character he wanted to bring to Mississippi. Unless the charges go away very quickly, Stirrups has no place on his team. The easy reaction is that it's slightly hypocritical that one day after he takes Carlton Hill off USF's hands, knowing he's had a recent arrest for possession of marijuana, Hatten says he wants no part of Stirrups and his error in judgment. With Stirrups though, the issue is greater, because it attacks a coach's ability to trust the young man. If he's willing to steal from customers of a business that employs both himself and his own mother, what conscience would stop him from stealing from a teammate's locker? What's truly mindless in all of this, both funny and sad at the same time, is how Stirrups got caught: With both cameras, police say he took a few pictures of himself and friends before pawning them, never deleting the images. So when police were able to recover the cameras, they saw the post-theft pics and showed them around at the parking lot office. Of course, they could identify him; he worked there. It's the kind of silliness you normally laugh at while reading Carl Hiassen novels. His six felony counts are remarkably similar to another USF signee who failed to qualify academically and wound up at Pearl River three years ago, a linebacker named Gene Coleman. We chronicled his problems last spring in a story about how college programs rarely do any kind of background checks on recruits; with Coleman, he'd burglarized a neighbor's home, with more than $13,000 in jewelry stolen. Again, not the smartest criminal mind, police said Coleman had stolen a $40 Wal-Mart gift card straight out of a Father's Day card, and was later identified on store surveillance cameras as he bought video games. The neighbor never got her wedding ring back, but still told a judge she didn't think his actions should take a college scholarship away from him. This might not be the end for Stirrups. Coleman managed to avoid jail time in his case, and would probably be at USF today had he been able to get his academics straight at Pearl River. This is Stirrups' first known arrest, so it's reasonable to think he could get a plea agreement lowering the charges to misdemeanors -- the low end of the range for third-degree grand theft is $300, and he's barely above that on both sets of charges. He'll have to find a junior college willing to take him, then he'll have a year or two to show enough for a Division I program to trust him with a scholarship, all while solving the academic problems that have limited him so far.

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2006 UCF Season Tix Sales were up over 35% compared to when GOL first arrived on campus. Far from very good or great...but a good start. PS. This increase came even with the base price of tickets up 50% from 2003. Also...good analysis about the difference from Manhanttan, KS and Tampa...yes, big cities aren't for everyone, but now with the recruiting restrictions for these "rural" schools like KSU (schools can't use private jets to fly recruits in for visits at a close near-by small/private airport) have to use commercial flights for all of recruiting (most of their recruits have to fly into/out of Kansas City, MO..which is about 2 hours away.) That's also what makes Huggins recruiting success so incredible. KU Hoops has been dominant in the State for over the past 50-60 plus years...while KSU has always been the small-step sister to the Jayhawks in regards to any type of Basketball success.

Yes...GOL has brought record attendace to UCF. Yes...GOL has helped TRIPLE the number of UCF Boosters and QUADRUPLED the $$$$$ that they raise. Yes...GOL and his 10 year contract helped solidify UCF getting $15 Million from Brighthouse Networks for naming rights. Yes...GOL was the sole reason why one sponsor gave Millions of $$$$ to help build the ONLY $5 Million Indoor Practice Facility (120 yd field) in the state. Yes...GOL has help bring in first time Million $$$ donors to UCF...many who have never donated one dime in the past. Just like many rebuilding projects...not everything goes as planned...but overall, GOL has raised a TON of new $$$$$ for UCF...that will last decades after he is gone. KL PS. If GOL would leave tomorrow...UCF is SOOOOOO much better off now...compared to when he finally came to campus in Jan '04.

Oh, I read it, I simply refuted your ultimate point by using your own school as evidence that it doesn't always work that way.  well he does make some very good points. I wish Huggy Bear was here but we wasted that chance. Thanks '83. I try to list information/facts/$$$$ figures vs just firing back with emotional responses like MikeB. Probably only the SKY would of been the limit if Huggins would of been hired this past off-season at USF.

Since the poster above ignored everything I posted...I'll just answer this question. I have Huggins contract info...because some UCF fans wanted to grab Huggins (not I at the time) last year...if all Top schools "passed" on him...and bring him BACK to UCF. (Huggins did Coach at UCF in the past). KSU is now laughing all the way to the bank $$$. Huggins NEXT contract will probably be double what he is getting now...but..as long as he can keep it up...he will probably earn more $$$$$...but the school as well will earn more $$$$$. Win-win for both.

Think about what Kansas State did last year when they hired Huggins for just $200,000 more per year than what USF is paying their current coach. When looking at contracts/agreements..."initial" costs (i.e. salary/guarantee) should NOT be the focal point of a discussion/negotiation. It should be about POTENTIAL NEW REVENUE that a new coach could/will bring in. Just look at Kansas State...located in one of the most isolated places in the USA...Manhattan, KS...but some how, Huggins just signed one of the Top 3-5 recruiting classes in the NATION! (At least one site has his incoming class ranked #1 !! Maybe most importantly, Huggins can recruit HS players to SIGN...and even some JUCO when help is needed ASAP like at KSU...to come to HIS program...vs just getting "hand-me-down" transfers from other schools. EVERY Coach in the Big East should be able to sign TOP HS Players...its the BIG EAST! Why does the USF Coach rely SOOOO much on hand-me-down transfers?) Now...let's look at all the REVENUE Huggins is now bringing into this "Football School". At Kansas State...they have SOLD OUT their season tickets for the first time in history (13,000), basically DOUBLED what they sold last year (6,750). KSU also sold out 25 new court-side side seats at $4,400 each. KSU for the first time is looking at adding new suites/loge boxes for even more revenue. Heck, Huggins got Nike to bump up their new contract to KSU to over $12 Million. Huggins brings in the $$$$$. Since KSU got Huggins on the "cheap" (only $800,000 guaranteed per year), as KSU has WELL surpassed his contracts with Millions of new revenue pouring into the program. Here's a look at KSU's contract with Huggins: Bob Huggins • Base salary: $180,000 • Guaranteed: $800,000 • Maximum: $1,205,000 • Length: Five years • Noteworthy clause: Huggins receives a $1 million annuity if he remains at Kansas State for the full five years of his initial contract. Should he depart before May 1, 2008, he will have to pay back a $30,000 signing bonus. That's a STEAL for what ($$$) Kansas State is bringing in this year...but just wait till he has a few recruiting classes of HIS kids...it will most likely get better...MUCH BETTER. (Not to mention all of the TV Appearances KSU has had this year (and much more to come when the team improves over the next few years)...believe already DOUBLED what they got during the ENTIRE '05-'06 season.) Huggins...in Tampa....BACK in the Big East....its almost like a "Perfect Storm". Tampa...or....Manhattan, KS? USF would of had to build a new 20,000 seat on-campus Arena to hold all their fans if they would of signed Huggins last year. PS. Here's some info from McCullum's initial aggreement with USF: Country Club membership: Not to exceed $4,200 a year Cars: No Buyout by coach if he leaves for another job: $400,000 before April 2004; $250,000 before April 2005; $100,000 before 2009 Payout by school if coach is fired: All remaining compensation due him Tidbits: $20,000 annual annuity collectible after five years of employment; Spouse travel to one regular season game, C-USA tourney, NCAA tourney or NIT and annual coaches convention; $210,000 assistant coaches’ annual salary pool; $10,000 if season ticket sales exceed 3,000 and $5,000 for each 500 tickets above 3,000; $10,000 if team GPA is 3.0 or above and $5,000 if 2.8 GPA.

FYI...here's a list of 4 and 5 loss teams that received votes in the Coaches poll (but finished outside the Top 25): 5 loss Kentucky 5 loss Texas Tech 5 loss South Carolina 5 loss Ga Tech 4 loss Maryland 4 loss HOUSTON 4 loss Texas A&M

There's a ton of interesting facts about the different types of stadiums proposed and comparisons to other college stadiums and arenas in the following report.  http://www.fau.edu/bot/files/Innovation_Village_Complete.pdf Gotta like Slide 12 in that presentation!

Are you SURE that's the official definition of a rivalry? If so...FSU didn't beat UF till the 7th time they played them...and FSU won only 2 out of their first 19 games played against UF. It took UF till their 7th game vs UGA to win their first game against the 'Dawgs. Believe both of those rivalries turned out "ok". Just don't tell either of those schools the "official" rivalry definition.

Wait till after the game, and watch what happens.   Oh wait... ;D Now you know the REST of the story! Next time...just listen to me...I'll give ya the REAL scoop! PS. Some at USF still don't know where the "ideas" come from, but...others do ÂÂ

Not so fast. When the Notre Dame NBC contract ends and is not renewed-welcome to Big East football. With 9 football teams the Big East will be looking to expand to 10 teams and play a Championship game. Who is that 10th team? The lure of Orlando to add another Florida team will be irresistible. UCF jumps into the Big East.. It's HIGHLY doubtful that NBC will drop Notre Dame come 2010 when their 2nd contract with them expires. ND is bringing record revenue with their TV/Internet deals. See NY Times Article from this past Nov: November 25, 2006 In College Football, the Pinstripes Belong to Notre Dame By JOE DRAPE In the 1920s, the Fighting Irish gave college football Knute Rockne and the Four Horsemen, creating something called the Notre Dame mystique. Ever since, the university has missed few opportunities to capitalize on that lore, commanding its own television contract with NBC as well as a lucrative seat alongside the major conferences at the Bowl Championship Series table. Now, with college football embracing the digital age, Notre Dame is extending its dominance. The Fighting Irish (10-1) are again in the discussion for the national championship, ranked No. 6 and playing No. 3 Southern California tonight for what each team hopes will be a chance to play in the B.C.S. title game against Ohio State on Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz. And just as Rockne ventured to New York City to play Army at Ebbets Field, the Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium from 1923 to 1925 to cement the passion of the Irish’s so-called subway alumni, Notre Dame is taking advantage of its relationship with NBC and aggressively experimenting with broadband technology. The network’s Web site streams a pregame show and Coach Charlie Weis’s postgame news conference. By all indications, the Irish faithful appear to be a growing and insatiable bunch. Notre Dame is the marquee name on CSTV, a cable channel and confederation of Web sites that focus on college sports. CBS bought CSTV last year. Of the 250 official college athletic Web sites in the CSTV fold, Notre Dame’s set a record with more than 7.8 million page views in September. That figure was 42 percent higher than the second-place site, which CSTV would not identify. Weis’s weekly coach’s show, 1 of 30 streamed on CSTV, is the most watched, according to the network, and is viewed two and a half times more than that of the nearest competitor. When CSTV ended up with the rights to Notre Dame’s game with Air Force earlier this month by virtue of a deal with the Mountain West Conference, it was the first time since Oct. 31, 1992, that a Notre Dame game had not been broadcast by NBC, ABC, CBS or ESPN. Because CSTV is available in only 15 million homes, it offered a pay-per-view online option that attracted an audience 800 times larger than its average college football Web cast. “Notre Dame has a unique, preternatural pull on what is essentially an ultimately loyal and urban following,†said Kevin O’Malley, a sports television consultant who has worked with every major conference and Notre Dame. “They are out there and they want information about their team, and they’ll find it.†College football fans find little middle ground when it comes to the Fighting Irish. “They are the New York Yankees of college football, and you either love them or loathe them, but everyone cares,†said Michael Tranghese, the commissioner of the Big East Conference, which is the home for every major Notre Dame sport except for its independent football team. “Every program wants a spot on their schedule, every bowl wants them,†Tranghese said. “In the early 1990s, when we were trying to concoct something to get the two best teams together in a title game, each conference commissioner knew it was very important that Notre Dame was involved. It was a business decision.†Notre Dame, a Catholic university in South Bend, Ind., is not the only major college football program with a storied history. In fact, Southern California boasts the same number of national championships (11) and Heisman Trophy winners (7) as Notre Dame. Still, no other program through the years has matched its business savvy. For much of the past 15 years, when the Irish were hardly dominant on the field, it seemed to many that Notre Dame was leveraging its reputation at the expense of other college conferences and programs. In 1990, NBC signed Notre Dame to a $7.6 million annual deal to broadcast its home games. By breaking ranks with the College Football Association, which was negotiating television rights on behalf of more than 60 other programs, Notre Dame diminished by tens of millions the value of the association’s rights. “It has been fun year for all of us,†Penn State Coach Joe Paterno told Sports Illustrated at the time. “We got to see Notre Dame go from an academic institute to a banking institute.†In 1998, when the Bowl Championship Series was implemented, Notre Dame was given the same weight as a conference, allowing the university to collect a full payout  an average of around $14 million  when it qualified for one of the four B.C.S. bowls. While the Big East and other conferences divide that money among all their members, Notre Dame keeps the whole payout. Notre Dame administrators are aware that the football’s team’s audience is not only vast but demanding. Behind Weis, who is in his second season, the Fighting Irish have re-established themselves among college football’s top programs. And with back-to-back blue-chip recruiting classes, Notre Dame has signaled that it intends to stay. The university generated $61.4 million in football revenue and spent $17.9 million, according to a 2005-6 filing under the federal Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act. During the same filing period, U.S.C. generated $27.7 million and spent almost the same amount as Notre Dame. Notre Dame’s athletic director, Kevin White, said the program had not veered far from the course set by Rockne, who created the image of a small, underdog team in the Midwest that would travel anywhere to play the giants of college football. Notre Dame has determinedly remained an independent in football, picking and choosing who and where it wants to play. Its roster features players from 28 states, and the graduation rate of its student-athletes is among the best in Division I-A. More recently, Notre Dame administrators have attempted to acknowledge that they had a rich asset and that they were not trying to shake down the college community for every last dollar. To that end, Notre Dame agreed to a cut in pay if it reached a B.C.S. game. This year, the Irish will receive $4.5 million if they qualify, or what a second team from a conference would earn. While Ohio State, for example, will receive about $17 million to share with other Big Ten members for playing in the B.C.S. title game, Michigan, as the second team from the conference, will share $4.5 million for playing in the Rose Bowl if it does not play Ohio State. White said Notre Dame agreed to the reduction to maintain its leadership position in the B.C.S. The decision came at a time when the B.C.S. added a bowl game to allow greater access to other conferences, which will begin this bowl season. There will be four B.C.S. bowl games and a title game. Beyond the Irish faithful, however, an important constituency views Notre Dame as, indeed, the first among equals in college football: broadcasters and bowl organizers. Notre Dame’s deal with NBC is worth $9 million a year through 2010. Ken Schanzer, the president of NBC Universal Sports, said the network’s commitment to the Irish was stronger than ever. He said the team’s performance on the field this season has led to a second consecutive year of strong ratings. “There are only a few legendary sports brands, and Notre Dame is among them,†Schanzer said. “When they perform well, they become more significant. Notre Dame is everyone’s second alma mater, or in some cases anti-alma mater. But they are an entry point to college football for committed and casual fans.†When Notre Dame played in the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, Fla., to end the 1999 and 2002 seasons, the bowl president, Richard M. Catlett, said the games were an overwhelming success in attendance and television ratings. “In 1999, when they played Georgia Tech, we sold tickets in 48 states,†Catlett said. “I don’t know what people in Alaska and New Mexico were doing that day, but we had them here from Hawaii and everywhere else. When Notre Dame plays, you sell every ticket you have. When they’re good, it’s great for business and great for college football.â€Â

Question, why do you continually point out and report our "actual" attendance when EVERY OTHER school in the country uses the paid attendance to report.  Is it because it supports your agenda to bash USF? I don't mention it first...the TSA reports actual figures to those in the Tampa Bay Media, and they report it. For some reason, most USF fans don't know that fact.

Think: 2005 USF Announced Average Attendance: 38,865 2005 USF Actual Average Attendance: 27,904 Difference of 10,961 "missing" fans per game. UCF/USF game in 2005 drew an actual crowd of 40,988. (Basically 13,000 ABOVE USF's actual crowd average). You can ask Greg or your "own" TSA insider for more info if you would like. That's all "I'll" give you....you figure out the rest..."if you really want to".

Once again, please provide a link to a reputable reference showing that the actual UCF attendance was greater than the actual WVU attendance. A link showing the actual 2005 attendance for all USF home games scores you extra credit. Kizarvexis By GREG AUMAN, Times Staff Writer Published September 20, 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHICH IS MORE? The attendance at Saturday's USF-UCF game in Orlando was announced as 46,708, more than the 45,139 announced at last year's game in Tampa. That's not to say more people were there this year. Announced attendances typically illustrate the number of tickets distributed; the actual attendance at Saturday's game... The closest thing to a comparable number from last year is an actual figure of 40,988, though that count has been padded by a few hundred as it also included the bands and cheerleaders. -------------- USF Fans Question Force Used To Arrest Field Rushers Skip directly to the full story. By VALERIE KALFRIN and BRETT McMURPHY The Tampa Tribune Published: Sep 28, 2005 TAMPA - The University of South Florida's first Big East win has been marred by post-game confrontations between security and fans involving at least one spectator whom police zapped with a Taser. In front of 29,567 (announced crowd 33,586) people at Raymond James Stadium on Saturday, USF beat the No. 9 University of Louisville, 45-14, in USF's first victory against an opponent ranked by The Associated Press....

Really? Then how do you explain that it was the LARGEST attendance by USF Students for any game at RJS? Also, the actual crowd was the largest for any USF game at RJS (even larger than the "actual" crowd vs WVU...as the UCF game was the only one to ever have an ACTUAL crowd of over 40,000). You may not call it a rivalry game...but it was certainly the most "popular" game for USF in their RJS history. PS. The week after the UCF-USF Game in '05....USF hosted "rival" Louisville, who was ranked in the Top 10...and the actual crowd was only 29,000 plus (didn't even reach 30,000 in actual attendance). So much for "rivals" helping draw attendance. PS. Since this thread was about "attendance", I'd figured I would post some facts on attendance.

There is plenty of room on USF's campus. I trust the administration would make the proper decisions. See above. You say there's plenty of room yet you chose not to say where you think it  is? Is there enough space to build a stadium (expandable to 80,000), athletic dorms and dinning facilities in close poximity to the planned and existing football practice facilities? FYI...believe the new NCAA rules prohibit more than 49% of residents in an Univ Dorm to be athletes. 50.1% of Dorm Residents must come from the general student population.

My thought is that it is discussed, but why pay to have a stadium proposal when you have no idea of the budget? Why plan now on a stadium that holds 50K to be built in 10-15 years, when in 5 years we may have 30K plus season ticket holders. Sure about that? USF has only about 14,000 "paying" season ticket holders now (an additional 3,000 plus are given out as comps to sponsors, friends of the University, etc...). USF just had their BEST SEASON ever in the BCS Conference...but couldn't draw 25,000 actual fans per game. USF season tix sales have been basically FLAT for over the past 5 years...but you think they will double in 5 years? Last time...almost EVERY stadium where most of the Big Football Programs play in...was at one time less than HALF the size of their current stadium model. EVERY school builds a football stadium for future expansion...but they play in them NOW, because of all the $$$$$$$ they bring in to the football program, to the campus, school, etc...every football weekend. UCF and USF never have been able to enjoy any of these extra $$$$ before...while UCF will FINALLY be able to see some of that revenue starting this Sept. PS. Yes, Brighthouse Stadium will just be a BUILDING...but the entire Athletic Village Complex, Campus, etc...will be a drawing card as well. Plus, UCF was able to build a new dining hall for all the AThletes in the new Convocation Center...which is located just across the street from the new Athletic Village Dorms...which is just steps away from the Football Athletic Building/Practice Fields/Indoor Practice Field/Stadium.

I might debate that, they will have about the same amount of season ticket holders, once the novelty of the stadium wears off. They've had better student attendance than USF in most years, but I think that if USF gets on a roll they will pass UCF in both. Remember their stadium only holds 43,000. Personally, USF would be served well to get their own 45-50,000 seat venue on campus. However, I know that it is just not feasible at the moment because of costs. I am of the minority that believes that the addition of an OCS will only propel this program further. FYI...UCF's Brighthouse Stadium will seat 45,000 on opening day...but is expandable to 65,000. The key to a successful LONG TERM football program is to get students HOOKED on Football (i,e, USF only averaged about 4,700 students per game this year), as THEY are the ones most likely to purchase season tix in the future...vs students that DID NOT attend games while in school. The higher student attendance imeans...the HIGHER percentage of future season tix holders a program will have. Plus, On-Campus Football Games are the #1 activity for bringing Alumni BACK TO CAMPUS...and its THOSE Alumni...that are more willing to donate $$$$$ to Athletics, Academics, Alumni Association, individual colleges at the University, etc....vs those that never return. Those are just some of the reasons why an on-campus stadium is SOOOOO important...regardless what amenities the stadium itself has or doesn't have...as the actual game is just a 3 hour event...while activities on campus for students/alumni/fans/friends of the University, etc...go on ALL WEEKEND LONG!

Easy...just follow the $$$$$$. Currently, the BCS Conferences control 94% of ALL the Bowl $$$$$$. If the NCAA held an official playoff system for I-A Football...the $$$$ would have to be shared with ALL 119 Div I-A Teams. Why would the BCS Conferences want to get a smaller piece of the pie? Answer: They don't. Follow the $$$$$ and 9 out of 10 times, you will find your answer.

What would you know about REAL college football...you're a Golden Knight. Easy...I've been to UCF Football Games at: Florida Florida State Georgia Georgia Tech Auburn Alabama Va Tech Nebraska Clemson South Carolina Just to name a few...... Plus, when I lived in New Orleans...got to go to games at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge. Been to numerous Sugar Bowls... Saw Iowa take on Michigan and Miami in Iowa City... Been to MANY bigtime campus football stadiums. That's how I know.