TrujilloBull2013

Lou should beat his son with a bootheel Ike Turner-style for shaming the family name. what a loser. in Japan Skip would have been forced to commit seppuku for dishonor.

we will be like any other mid-major patsy. why did Texas schedule Wyoming? why did Florida schedule Bowling Green? USC schedule Hawaii? South Carolina schedule UAB? the only extra benefit we will have had over some of those other schools is that risk MAY be slightly lower and reward slightly higher for playing a program that had found its way into the rankings and been part of a BCS/AQ conference for a few years like USF. we can be the super-patsy that won't risk destroying a "Big 5" conference team if it happens to lose to us, and may gain slightly more credibility if they win. sorry just polishing a turd here. it still smells like **** but at least it's kinda shiny.

too bad ACC chose Cuse instead of UConn... then we could have been

there is no hyperbole here my friend. i had to go to the local Catholic food pantry for Thanksgiving this year. i needed assistance paying my electric bill this month. i dropped my 2yo son from my health insurance policy. If you're in that much of a financial strait, the last thing you need to be doing is spending money on football games ... and you're not really the type who Wooly is referring to. why do u think i'm not renewing my season tickets next year? lol. had u been kind enough to lend me your crystal ball back in April when i paid for my season tickets, maybe i would have saved my money and not renewed for this year either. unforeseen circumstances are "unforeseen" for a reason. that's what unforeseen means.

there is no hyperbole here my friend. i had to go to the local Catholic food pantry for Thanksgiving this year. i needed assistance paying my electric bill this month. i dropped my 2yo son from my health insurance policy. i have had 2 season tix in the South Endzone since 2007. the $350 i spent in April to renew, while relatively insignificant to some is a lot to me, and that doesn't include gas from Bradenton, parking and any concessions we may purchase at the game. this isn't a sob story. my family just hit some hard times these past few months, and that more than anything would be the cause for non-renewal next year. some corners have to be cut. but i cant say i wouldn't be more prone to find a way for this corner not to be cut if we had a reasonable product on the field. going to USF games has been me and my wife's one weekly night out, our quality time, our getaway for 6 nights of the year since before we were even married. we don't always expect to win, but we do expect to see competitive games that turn out in our favor once in a while. when you're an alumnus like me whose followed the program for the better part of a decade and halfway across the country, it is impossible not to be bummed watching the team crash and burn game after game. my wife and i enjoy the time we spend together regardless, but we could do it cheaper and with less regret by just staying in town and watching the game in a bar. at least we wouldn't feel like ******** for spending money on tickets we can barely afford just to see a product on the field we are enjoying less and less. i dont want to break my 8 year home attendance streak. but if there is a way to get 2 tickets to the games for less than the $50 we're spending per game for season tickets now, it would be irresponsible not to take it. the risk of missing a "consequential" game due to outpricing or selling out (yeah right) is the risk u take to save money. that's what season tickets are for: a guaranteed seat at a guaranteed price. if there is relatively low risk of failing to find a seat via StubHub or eBay or at worst the box office, there is no incentive to buy season tickets.

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after reading this thread i am convinced jvwvu is smazza with slightly better capitalization skills.

that would be me. i gave him some time before i grabbed the pitchfork but to fail OVER and OVER again in the exact same way is too much. it shows an inability to adapt.

and as with everything, it's all about money. teams like Bama, Florida, LSU, Auburn and Georgia are all in the Top 10 most valuable CFB programs in the country. Texas, OSU and Oklahoma are all in there too. shocker that ALL of these teams (with the exception of Georgia) have played in the BCS NCG in recent years. this is less about strength of conference and more about which teams will generate the most $$$.

the argument about ranking is a tautology. the entire problem with the BCS NCG is that it is based on subjective human opinion as to who the "best" two teams are. that is based on rankings, which are determined 2/3 by human opinion and 1/3 by computer rankings that factor in human opinion. does the SEC play "top 25 teams" for half their schedule? sure. but how do we know those teams are really "top 25" worthy and not just overrated by humans because of the conference they play in? look at last year's BCS championship. it was a ******* fluke. but an all-SEC championship was shoved down our throat because people have convinced themselves the SEC is just that much better than everybody else. but look at the top teams in the SEC. they routinely play 7-8 home games a year, RARELY play AQ OOC opponents on the road, and when they do it's often in a neutral site or somewhere in the southeast. they stack the deck in their favor then justify it with the tautology (circular logic) that, well, they have to get some slack somewhere because their in-conference schedule is soooo tough. i call ********. the SEC may indeed be the best conference in CFB, but they are not SO much better that a 1-loss SEC team trumps an undefeated team from another AQ conference. when the SEC starts playing REAL competition out of conference and on the road, you'll start seeing them lose, and all this "we play 5 top 25 teams a year!!!" **** will subside. until then it's just inbreeding.

your argument is this: the Big East should automatically be excluded from playing in the BCS championship because Hawaii got killed by Georgia and can't hang with the big boys year in and year out? makes perfect sense.

DoJo has a lot of upside, unfortunately he has averaged less than 8 minutes per game during his 2 seasons in the league... hard to rack up stats with no playing time. and while his per-game stats are ****, expand him to per-36 minutes and he averages 12 points, 6 boards, 5.5 assists, 1 block and 1 steal. that's not to say he would average that if he played 36 minutes a game, but he is fairly productive when he's in the game. at this point he would be better off going to a team in rebuild mode that's not stacked with talent on the bench ahead of him. he could be a solid rotation player if he simply doubled his minutes... he won't get that on a team like the Mavs that are trying (in vain, IMHO) to compete for a championship. i'm with Dan: Orlando would be a good place to start.

he has 4 games to get 596 yards. o/u on 11,000 yards? he'd need 721 yards of total offense in 4 games.

agreed. they wouldn't have dumped him without cause... although there were certainly people (myself included) who believed Leavitt had reached his plateau and had proven to be uncompetitive in BE play. some of those people jumped on the lockerroom incident as a convenient way to move on, but had it not happened Leavitt would have finished out his contract. that is a completely separate issue from the hiring of Skip Holtz, which was a HORRIBLE hiring decision made, as someone already noted, under extenuating circumstances. and i have a feeling Skippy was appealing IN PART because his Downy-soft personality is polar opposite of what CJL was. and i think THAT is where the huge mistake was made: u don't hire someone because they are unlike the person they're replacing. u hire someone because they are right for the job. CJL was a decent ball coach. he built this program from trailers and walk-ons. he got A LOT out of low-ranked, underrecruited players, especially defensive players, than lesser coaches (Skippy, that means u!) probably would have gotten out of them... but his authoritarian management style was his proverbial "fatal flaw" and when it manifested itself as it did it could no longer be overlooked. hopefully Woolard learns from his mistake the next time around. if i were him i'd already be sending out my feelers to find the right man to replace Skip and win us a conference championship.

Right, and the only one with any importance went on to make a career for himself in the NFL. sure... as a position coach. his performance on the field was less a reason for his dismissal than his off-field interpersonal communication skills and management style.

everything i've ever seen this "Plantation Pete" guy post is utterly retarded. he hyperventilates more than Nancy Grace on Ritalin giving birth to octuplets at high altitude. two coaches in and this clown is talking "graveyard" ?? c'mon son. of those two coaches, only ONE was a bad hire (Holtz). the other (Jim) was perfect for the job, and wasn't even hired by Woolard. BOTH coaches were given everything they could possibly need to succeed at USF. BOTH coaches would have been/would be fired by more nationally prominent programs. better coaches at bigger programs have been fired for abusing authority the way CJL did, and better coaches at bigger programs have been fired for sucking as bad on the field as Skippy has. there's no graveyard here, we just haven't found the right fit. a graveyard would be a place where the AD/University refuses to upgrade facilities, provide budget for decent assistants, etc. or where successful coaches are shitcanned for no reason. that isn't USF, sorry.

he's an expert on stupid comments.

and all it took was a chokeslap In reality, it was a chokeslap that never happened. What it really took was Doug Woolard orchestrating a lynching. we all read the reports with poorly redacted names. revisionist history is better known as mythology. And who wrote that report? Hmmm? i believe there was an independent investigator. Leavitt contradicted himself multiple times. multiple students contradicted his account. no need to rehash this ********. Leavitt screwed himself and needed to go. the fact that Skip is epic garbage does not change the facts surrounding Leavitt's termination. the TERRIBLE decision to hire coach in no way means Leavitt's termination was unjustified.

Get rid of Woolard and Skip will follow. would LOVE to see that moron go too.

and all it took was a chokeslap In reality, it was a chokeslap that never happened. What it really took was Doug Woolard orchestrating a lynching. we all read the reports with poorly redacted names. revisionist history is better known as mythology.

the program isn't destroyed, but keeping Skip any longer than this season will absolutely compound the problem. IMO, the best way to send a message is to shitcan this bum RIGHT NOW. Kevin Patrick interim... seriously, Skipcan **** Holtz and even if we lose the rest of the season nobody will sit back and say "well if we had Skip we would have won." it's a no-lose situation for Doug Woolard.

was that u in 126? lol

good for him. our team is so bad they deserve to be laughed at.

going to the International Bowl/MagicJack Bowl every other year was pretty sweet tho.

and all it took was a chokeslap