Again you are not comparing apples to apples Pitt and Nova have been established programs for a long time and those coaches have been at those schools the whole time as well. Stan has been with a down Arkansas program and turned them into a 3 time NCAA team. And USF was in one or the worst shapes of any basketball school BCS or non BCS. He has taken us to 1 NCAA and one NIT in the last 3 years. You must look at the situation for what it is. This year has been awful and some of the blame needs to be placed on the academic issues associated with W. Austin. Now some blame goes to stan for not having anyone else to take the place of that loss, but again this isn't a high level program where you have the luxary of having many quality players sitting on the bench. Next years recruiting class along with what Stan has done the previous 3 years gives him the benefit of the doubt. Now if 3 years from now we are having seasons like this that is another topic for discussion. I know you have not been a fan of his and keep saying coaches would love to coach for a school that doesn't expect much and keep their job, but has taken this program from the very bottom, thats what it needs to be compared to,