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My personal belief is that FSU ends up in the SEC. That said, there is no reality where USF is "far more appealing" to the B1G than FSU. Everything is going to end up on streaming at some point and at that point it's a matter of actual eyeballs on screens. We don't even come close to the viewership that FSU brings, period.

Careful. We said "it can't get any worse" at the end of the Charlie Strong tenure too

Probably hollering at OnlyFans models

I think if we had built on the '07 run to #2 and invested in football there would have been a case. Following up Leavitt with the Skip Holtz disaster and Judy leaving Athletics in the hands of Doug Woolard ensured that never happened. They had Papa John bankrolling them, but Louisville was also a very strong, well-rounded athletic department at the time they were invited.

If FSU and Clemson leave, Miami will still be outnumbered 13 to 1. And if their conference mates want to ensure a Florida trip every season, they won't have a say in downvoting us. And if that becomes clear to them and they're given the choice of a Florida team to be added, they're sure as **** not gonna choose FAU or FIU

Disagree on needing Miami to move on. If just FSU leaves, they could look to maintain a two-Florida-teams balance. And if they still have Miami, that rules out FAU and FIU. And guess who's the last major Florida university not in a P5.

Correct. Leavitt worked harder than most, and Strong was collecting a retirement check after 2017.

Post it Mike, don't make us go hunting for it

Our best shot at a life raft has been, and will continue to be, that FSU leaves the ACC and they bring us in to fill the additional Florida void.

Nah, I'd vote we crush Conference USA first. The Sun Belt at least has entertaining teams.

I'm curious which paywall

Looked back to page 1. Kinda crazy that my son was about 6 months old when this thread started, he's in middle school now, and we're in this ****-sandwich conference still.

I mean, that's true. But even $2-3M a year is 3-4x what they're making in CUSA. Would be 1, 2 years max before they'd make up the money. I guess it would depend on how reliant they were on that. Or if they did something like the AAC defectors did with their exit fees and negotiated a long payout period (or even just agreed to pay out annual out of their new media payout). If it came to it, I also wouldn't be terribly surprised to see most of CUSA agree to just dissolve and scatter amongst the new AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt. We already saw a few teams last year that decided they'd rather be in the Sun Belt.

I think back to the 2015 Maryland game when Quinton Flowers had led back-to-back scoring drives to try to get us back in the game. Tags put Bench back in, allegedly because he promised him he would, and killed all momentum that Q had built up. He then proceeded to handcuff Q in the second half against Memphis the next week. I sometimes wonder just how much different that 2015 season would have been if he had just stuck with Q from the outset and cut the **** with the ******* QB carousel. Maybe Q leads a second half comeback against Maryland, giving Tags the confidence to unleash him against Memphis instead of Syracuse. Maybe we finish 10-2 instead of 8-4, go on to play for the conference title and then who knows what else. Point being, if we do what you're suggesting, then Goach has already failed us.

Isn't CUSA getting paid like $700K a year? If the AAC wanted to take a CUSA team (assuming we still have a $7M a year payout), it wouldn't be that cost prohibitive to buy out $3.5-4.2M in GOR

I got BigTenPlus. Bonus points for the confetti! Really makes me feel like we won the realignment game

Since a good chunk of the crowd is liable to be Bammers, maybe we can reach out to their message boards and enlist their help with this effort. Maybe even get someone to talk to Saban about dropping something like "Man, USF has a great thing going on here in Tampa. I really think someone like the ACC should pick them up before they blow up."

I'd put Rutgers '07 at the top of the list. I still think the UConn loss the next week was a hangover effect from the shenanigans in Piscataway. And Cincy, we just beat ourselves in the first quarter and couldn't climb out. I wholeheartedly believe that stretch goes down different if IFP never happened and we continued rolling in that game. #2 would definitely be the '17 War on I-4. Even if we blew it against Memphis in the conference championship, a win in that game denies that chance for OCC, they never get to claim their faux national championship, and who knows how different conference realignment looks now.

I just can't see GB taking the start gig. Two weeks ago someone said he was still working up the strength in his shoulder. And BB showed too much promise at the end of 2022, coupled with getting all the primary reps through spring. I think it's Brown, with an off chance BB sees action. I voted 3 would see action in the poll thinking it meant all season, because I think Izzy Carter is gonna see some action this season. Don't know if any of that will come in Game 1

F that, F them, and F you for suggesting we look up to them. ... But seriously, what we need is some success on the football and then when Goach moves on, to not hire a coach with the polar opposite gameday philosophy. Willie Taggart and Scott Frost both pulled a program up by its bootstraps. The difference is, we hired a half-assed lazy SOB who thought he was gonna ride Willie's coattails back into a P5 program, but brought a completely different philosophy on gamedays and ruined it all. When Frost left, those turds hired a young up and comer with a similar offense and similar mindset. And then did the same again when Heupel got poached by Tennessee. All of which kept the machine that Frost rebuilt running.

Hooooo buddy, take a look at Twitter. There's a segment of USF Twitter that has all but called for VPMK's job because he hasn't shared renderings. If there's one thing that Outlaw and I agree on, it's that Goach is the proper vernacular. Trip be damned

A sandcastle look with palm trees accenting the stadium outside. Very beachy vibe with which we can continue selling the "Come to the Bay/Stay in the Bay" catch phrases.

I remember watching that first drive as they marched right downfield on us and thinking "Man, we're ******" right up until Jerrell Young ripping the ball out at the goal line and Webster running the other way faster than anybody who's ever run before.

Had a huge goal line stand against FSU in Tally in '09 as well.

It seems like this is the new way construction firms are doing the lights. San Diego State's look similar IIRC