gobulls83

Petrino will never go back to Louisville. He burned too many bridges there, just like he does everywhere he goes. It says a lot about him that no place he's coached would ever consider rehiring him.

What is very possible and would be totally hilarious, is if the FSU/Auburn game gets more viewers in the Orlando market. Will the UCFers just forget about this silly bragging, or will they try and backtrack and say the ratings don't make Orlando "FSU country"? I don't think I've ever once cared about the TV ratings of a game before, but now I'm hoping that happens so I can see the UCF clowns' reaction.

It has as much meaning as USF-West Virginia being the most-watched ESPN game on a Friday night, or whatever that record is/was. Does it mean the whole nation is clamoring to watch USF? No, it means there's only one football game on TV on Friday nights. Though at least USF's "record" was for nationwide audience, not just the Tampa market. Does anyone know if that game still holds that record?

Oh, yeah, Kansas City ... where no Big XII team is. Maybe read the comment you're responding to before responding: "It's not the states, it's the cities. And the distances from major airports and metropolitan areas." You could fly to Kansas City, but then you've got to rent a car to get wherever you're going, be it Kansas or Kansas State. Same with Dallas. Right now, most of the teams in USF's conference are in major cities. There is no arguing the fact that our current conference foes are in places that are easier to travel to. Obviously that's not a reason to want to stay in the AAC; USF will not be invited to the Big XII any time soon, but if it were, it would have to accept. But that doesn't mean the comment about travel isn't true. Also, I think an equally valid reason to want to join the ACC rather than the Big XII is because it is only a matter of time before Texas kills the Big XII.

You finally manage to hold the shift key at the start of a sentence, and it comes with the caps lock on.

Yeah UCF carries the market ... when they're playing their biggest game ever ... with no other games on TV. You're trying hard, but you're failing.

I'm just comforted by the fact that a mere 3 points was the difference between your best year and our worst year, head-to-head. Shh don't tell them that even they thought they were going to loose our match up this year as fans started clearing out before the end of the 4th. UCF you are the better team THIS YEAR. You are acting like the virgin that finally got laid and think you're a **** stud now. Do it for a few years and lets see if it is legit. You guys thought you were legit without EVER doing it...so which is worse ? oh tell me that story how you were ranked #2 for 4 days.... UCF lost to that team 64-12. Insulting that USF team just makes that UCF team look even more pathetic.

Who said any of these? USF sucked this year, definitely the worst USF team ever, and they still could have easily won against the best UCF team ever, Bortles or not. I'm not worried about USF not being able to beat UCF. The talk about losing key players is only to drive home the reality that one big win doesn't make them the Gators or something. This season is as good as it's ever going to get for UCF. USF beat more impressive teams from 2006 to 2008 then UCF has in their entire history. Holtz wrecked everything, but USF will resume its rightful place as the teacher, and UCF will return to being the student. And, like real UCF students, they won't be very good at it.

And? That win helped UCF win the conference and get UCF to a BCS Bowl. In 2008, UCF took Usf into overtime. Usf was ranked #17 and UCF was 4-8 that year. Things happen. point being you are 2 players and head coach removed from being a bottom feeder in a bad conference. You better hope the stars continue to align, because it looks like it's only down from here for you. I don't expect UCF to win a BCS Bowl every year. I expect down years and rebuilding to occur in the future. It happens everywhere. What we achieved this year will suffice for a long while. And to those using UCF years of having football in comparison to USF are lost. USF was in a BCS conference since 2005. Right, and now neither USF nor UCF is in a conference that has anything to be proud of, which is why this season is going to be a one-off. A fortunate set of circumstances that coincided with UCF having its best team ever.

It's not the states, it's the cities. And the distances from major airports and metropolitan areas. In terms of travel, the AAC is 1,000 x better than the B12. But I'm still holding out hope for the ACC I get what you were going for, but USF charters flights so it wouldn't be hectic, somehow the rest of the Big12 manages to fly in and out of those cities just fine. Unless they decide to start chartering flights for fans too, I can't figure out how your point is relevant to the comment you quoted.

God bless him ... Goldie has been providing those type moments for years on here. First of all, gobulls83...it feels pretty good being a UCF grad, right now. Not sure how it feels to be a USF grad, I guess you still have being ranked as high as #2 for one week, six years ago. Well, you see, there are good things about being a USF grad besides the football's team's "achievements." I think I made that clear in my post, but then, as I pointed out, I wouldn't expect reading comprehension to be a skill a UCF grad would display. Congratulations on, what, the second or third noteworthy win in your team's 35-year history? This one was pretty much more than just a.noteworthy win though. And you do realize that UCF was Div. II and 1-AA for more than half of those 35 years, right? They've been FBS longer than USF has had a team, and for about double the amount of time that USF has been FBS.

"Who would have thought that after Notre Dame fires O'leary he goes to UCF and in the BCS era has more BCS wins there than Notre Dame did in the same time period?" He also has more winless seasons than Notre Dame in the same time frame. UCF had their best-ever season in the one year they were in an AQ league, a league full of losers that only had the bid on a technicality. They did beat Baylor, so good on them for that, but it's one win. FSU would cream them. There's no reason to believe otherwise. I don't think Baylor would give FSU a game, so why would UCF beating Baylor but giving up 42 points in the process mean UCF would have a chance? Five years ago, it was USF who had the bright future and UCF was stuck in la-la land. Now, it's the other way around. Who's to say it won't reverse again in a few years? Of course it will, and then it will flop again, and again... FSU right now is great, and Florida sucks, so does that mean it's always going to be that away? Of course not, you'd be an idiot to think that. Five years ago, the opposite was true. UCF isn't going anywhere. They're still the same team. And still an easy target for jokes even in victory, or at least the guy bragging that the only BCS game to involve an Orlando school got the highest rating in Orlando for any BCS game certainly is.

God bless him ... Goldie has been providing those type moments for years on here. First of all, gobulls83...it feels pretty good being a UCF grad, right now. Not sure how it feels to be a USF grad, I guess you still have being ranked as high as #2 for one week, six years ago. Well, you see, there are good things about being a USF grad besides the football's team's "achievements." I think I made that clear in my post, but then, as I pointed out, I wouldn't expect reading comprehension to be a skill a UCF grad would display. Congratulations on, what, the second or third noteworthy win in your team's 35-year history?

Actually I'd like to modify that a bit: I obviously don't know for sure how likely it is UCF (or USF, or any other team) will get invited to join a better conference. It SEEMS unlikely to me, but who knows. What I do know is, one single bowl win, even in the Fiesta Bowl, isn't going to make much of a difference, however close they may or may not be. Basically, the only way winning can force a team's way in is if they win SO much that they have a following that would make money for the conference that might invite them. That's it. And winning this game does not make that anywhere close to true about UCF. It would be embarrassing to think otherwise.

Winning and losing has next to nothing to do with it. It has been said a million, billion times, and still people throw it around. Rutgers is Rutgers. Pitt hadn't won anything meaningful in several years when they got invited. Cincinnati won back-to-back conference titles and are still in purgatory with USF and others. This bowl win is memorable for UCF and its fans, but it's 3rd and 34 for them in their drive to get into a better conference, and this bowl game gained them maybe a yard.

But seriously, I'm glad GoldenBuc posted that. I didn't realize it, but I really needed the reminder that no matter what else happens, I'm still lucky I don't have to go through life as a UCF grad. How could someone read that and not realize it's meaningless? That's a UCF education for you.

Last night's Fiesta Bowl was the most-watched 2014 Fiesta Bowl ever in the gobulls83 household.

The answer is, neither looks at all attractive to the Big XII.

Anyway, it looks like UCF's gonna win this thing, and I have no desire to watch that. I'm gonna retire for the night. Actually, it occurs to me now that there's really no good reason for me to watch the game - UCF losing would only confirm everything I already think, and UCF winning is not something I enjoy watching. Maybe a really soul-crushing, heart-breaking defeat, like what happened in the Iron Bowl, would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately, Baylor apparently either is not very good or didn't show up tonight. I don't know which it is, because I haven't seen a single one of their games before now.

Baylor has the best offense in the country, big wins vs TTU, Texas, they also beat oklahoma (another BCS team) by 30+ UCF with wins over UL, Houston, PSU... should have beat SC. both are good teams... absolutely nothing like NIU Good? I guess, but not much more than that. But that doesn't make what I said untrue. You offered their records as evidence, and NIU, which lost the same number of regular season games, is clear proof that the record doesn't tell the whole story. Is UCF exactly as good as Alabama, a team that finished with exactly the same record? Of course not. UCF went 11-1 in part because they are an above-average team, maybe, and in (larger) part because their schedule was a joke. You say they almost beat South Carolina - well they also almost lost to USF. You're cherry-picking facts here. Schedule was a joke? I didn't see any Div. 1AA teams this year. Calling it a joke seems a little harsh. Teams with a winning record that UCF beat this year: Penn State (7-5) Louisville (11-1) Houston (8-4) Joke is the right word. And because I anticipate you trying to make the Louisville win more than it really was, here's the teams with winning records the Cardinals beat: Houston (8-4) Cincinnati (8-4) Ohio (7-5) For comparison, Alabama beat six teams with winning records - and that includes LSU and Texas AM, each of whom had multiple impressive wins themselves. The only semi-impressive win on UCF's schedule is against a team that in fact has no impressive wins themselves. Alabama... in their conference schedule... played 3 (of 8) teams with winning records and went 2-1 right? Outside of their conference schedule they play the Chattanooga mocs and the like. The scheduling process in college football is corrupt and a joke, you'll get no disagreement from me on that. But that fact doesn't make UCF's schedule impressive. That Alabama's biggest games were in-conference doesn't change the fact that they have more impressive wins than UCF does. I only chose Alabama because I happened to have their schedule open though. I don't think you or anyone would suggest UCF was on that level. But victories over three winning teams, none of whom themselves beat a team with fewer than four losses? Color me unimpressed.

... what about Oklahoma? If you're saying Baylor is an elite team because of one win, then ... I'm just going to have to disagree with that. Sometimes there are just fluke results - when USF beat No. 9 Louisville 45-14 in 2005 (pretty similar to Baylor beating No. 10 Oklahoma 41-12 this year), were the Bulls an elite team? I'm not saying Baylor isn't a very good team - the Oklahoma win alone is way more impressive than anything UCF has done to this point - but I wouldn't put too much stock in the score of that game.

Or a statement that Baylor is not a "top-level P5 team." This is their first BCS game too, after all.

Baylor has the best offense in the country, big wins vs TTU, Texas, they also beat oklahoma (another BCS team) by 30+ UCF with wins over UL, Houston, PSU... should have beat SC. both are good teams... absolutely nothing like NIU Good? I guess, but not much more than that. But that doesn't make what I said untrue. You offered their records as evidence, and NIU, which lost the same number of regular season games, is clear proof that the record doesn't tell the whole story. Is UCF exactly as good as Alabama, a team that finished with exactly the same record? Of course not. UCF went 11-1 in part because they are an above-average team, maybe, and in (larger) part because their schedule was a joke. You say they almost beat South Carolina - well they also almost lost to USF. You're cherry-picking facts here. Schedule was a joke? I didn't see any Div. 1AA teams this year. Calling it a joke seems a little harsh. Teams with a winning record that UCF beat this year: Penn State (7-5) Louisville (11-1) Houston (8-4) Joke is the right word. And because I anticipate you trying to make the Louisville win more than it really was, here's the teams with winning records the Cardinals beat: Houston (8-4) Cincinnati (8-4) Ohio (7-5) For comparison, Alabama beat six teams with winning records - and that includes LSU and Texas AM, each of whom had multiple impressive wins themselves. The only semi-impressive win on UCF's schedule is against a team that in fact has no impressive wins themselves.

Baylor defense reminding me of my 8-year-old nephew and his friends trying to tackle each other in my sister's back yard.

Time for a crippling UCF turnover.