Knightfan41

Even if you did not want a BHNS, $100 mil would get you plenty of stadium. that is twice what UCF spent. It would keep the debt service down and allow for a quality experience. No money would be made at first, but the revenues would be used to pay down the debt until eventually it would be profitable.

Seriously South Carolina has their stadium off campus, but they own it and it is home. It is situated in an industrial area about a mile or two from campus. the whole area takes life on gamedays. If USF were to build a little bit off campus, but with lots of area to tailgate that would probably work. USF would really benefit from an OCS, and there is no need for $200 million to build it.

Think how much money you would make if you built one of these... Sorry.. I could not resist....

USF will not build a stadium until they have to. It makes no fianancial sense to do it. If the morons at the Citrus Bowl had treated UCF with some semblence of partnership it is possible that UCF would still be playing at The Dump. In the long run I don't care what you say about BHNS it is a world better than the Citrus Bowl. Put USF in the same dilemna right now and you would be facing down your own version of The Wok. If they are financially forced to do it USF would build a BHNS type stadium on campus. There is no money to build anything better. Otherwise they will stay where they are. Partnering to help build a different off campus stadium is just plain stupid. I beleive Baylor has one of the biggest enodowments in the country and 100s of years of rich oil field alumni. That type of building is a pipedream for USF

Any chance of immediate success? Realistically what does Taggart have to work with? BTW whenever I use the name Taggart I cannot help but think of this...

^^^^^^^ All I can say is...wow If it really matters where the girl goes to school you have some serious issue. If she is a great girl it just does not matter at all. Hell a once a year inhouse rivalry can be pretty interesting,

Yeah, i would never even consider anyone so hot just based upon her photo shoot alone. Even though I don't know her at all she is entirely too fake for me. I mean who would date the starting QB of a D1 football team? That is like dating a complete loser. I love comments like this.

Skip did well at ECU because he had some kid named Chris Johnson carrying the pill. I not convinced that any one player in that situation can make that happen. I think there was also some unrealistic expectations on behalf of USF fans. Under Levitt USF won some amazing games which I think hid some of the underlying deficiencies with the team. Deficiencies that were only natural for a program only a few years in existance. Skip walked into those expectations and proceeded to underachieve even for a young program. Skip may have been doomed from the beginning, but at least Skip had a track record to look at. It appeared to be a great fit. Taggart takes over with a completely different atmosphere. Fans have lower expectations and are hoping for a 6-7 win season in a watered down conference. With no real history to speak of I think Taggart is stepping into an ideal coaching aopportunity for him. Nobody knows what to expect

this has merit. As I stated before I think this was Jim Levitt's strength. His ability to get the kids to believe. When you are a newer program without the big time recruits and athletes you need something extra to make things happen. If he can do that and sustain it, then good things will happen.

I don't have a clue. It is hard to judge because there really is nothing to go by. the reason I ask is that every single article I read goes on about what a great hire he was for the Bulls, but with little detail why that might be. When USF hired Skip Holtz I had my doubts because he suffered as an offensive coordinator at south Carolina but did well at East Carolina. Overall I thought it was a good hire. My opinion has always been that Jim Levitt was an incredible motivator. He was the kind of coach that could sqeeze every bit of juice from his players that he could. While it appeared that Levitt would stumble in October, I think the truth was that he had the players playing above and beyond expectations early in the season and doing things that they had no business doing. Then it would come crashing down by the end of the season because there was little depth. Taggart is a complete mystery to me. The administration must have seen something in him in order to give him the opportunity.

This is not a troll thread I promise. I know almost nothing about Coach Taggart other than what I have read on Wikipedia andthat he has a reputation as a good recruiter. I know he was at Western Kentucky for three years and they had 2 7-5 seasons there and a bowl appearance which is an applishment in and of itself. What is it that makes him a good coach and what do Bulls fans realisitcally expect him to do for the program in the next few years? How long should he be given to accomplish those goals? I am just curious as to how he might differ from the two previous coaches.

This really has become CUSA+. I feel right at home.

UCF's is not inflatable. It's a pre-engineered metal oven. fixed it Solar Oven??? Are they leading in this research area? Jealousy is a terrible thing. ""When" you build something, then you can compare and be critical. Until then you are just being USF green. If it were nice, I'd be the first to admit jealousy. But, it's average to below average, just like your OCS. So, there's no reason to be jealous. FSU's soon to be indoor practice facility on the other hand... HA! That is the absloute worse denial I have ever heard. You are saying you would rather not have one at all (which you don't) then to have something like UCF. What a crock. Come on, you can admit this one little secret jelousy. Just like the OCS. Deep down inside you wish you had something to call your own. Its a river in Egypt my friend....

I'm really hoping USF takes a significant portion of the windfall we are receiving from the defections and uses it to pay down debt. That being said, I don't know how much debt USF Athletics has, but I think it would be smart to reduce it as much as possible. We may be having some long years ahead and having some potentially big bills raking up and needing to be paid may not help us much. Debt is extremely cheap at the moment. USF should be leveraging it up, not paying it down. One caveat, though. Any assets taken on with debt must create their own revenue streams to pay off that debt. This ^^ Only they will secure the debt with future increases in student athletic fees, so there will always be an income stream for this.

Which is why you are not in charge of the decisions. Because your view is completely skewed by your misplaced sense of self worth and hatred of all things UCF. These decisions are driven by the demand (i.e. ESPN), not USF leadership.. Plus you know deep in your heart that you want to hold hands with UCF fans. Kinda sorta. But it ain't their "hands" I want to hold... http://images.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=636&q=girls+of+ucf&oq=girls+of+ucf I can respect that...

What you see here is the widening of the gap between the haves and the have-nots. College football is all about the $$ now and it is only getting worse. It is stricly TV revenue generated, Winning will have little to do with it. Thus they will have #7 SEC team before a #1 undefeated A12 team. You don't see any of the big conferences jumping to grab Boise State do you? They are the poster child for non-AQ success, but they are on the outside looking in just like us.

1. I don't think that anyone offered anything out of the goodeness of their hearts. My guess i that there is some legal basis for a split therefore there is a negotiation. 2. Ok go ahead and invite some teams that will bring you more money. Oh wait there are none. Oh and you sold the name, and blah blah blah...see the last 10 pages of dicussion.

I beleive this is what I said about 5 pages ago.

Famous last words of the weak minded message board poster. How is it troling to discuss the topic of the message thread?

Yeah, I like that. FIU doesn't cry like a little girl every-time they don't get something they don't deserve. The rest of em can decide to come on board or go conference shopping. FAU plays some big teams as well and would jump at the chance. Didn't they play 'Bama this year? They have an OCS to boot OWLCATRAZ Gee this strategy sounds familiar. Lets invite a crappy team, Like Villanova instead of shoring up the conference. Anything except bring UCF to the table. That strategy has not worked well for USF and their conferences very well in the past.

I would hazard a guess that if there was no legal right to the money, those three programs would not be on the panel to decide what to do with it. That you would rather see money burn than to put it to work building the programs of you conference mates says a lot about your intellegence.

Which is why you are not in charge of the decisions. Because your view is completely skewed by your misplaced sense of self worth and hatred of all things UCF. These decisions are driven by the demand (i.e. ESPN), not USF leadership.. Plus you know deep in your heart that you want to hold hands with UCF fans.

Oh I am sure ESPN would love to renegotiate the TV deal with those MAC and Sunbelt teams instead of UCF, Houston, SMU, ECU etc. That would really be a boon for the USF program. The truth is the USF does not bring anything more to the table than those three teams. The conference needs every perceived TV set it can get, and like it or not UCF is likely first in line when it comes to TV markets among the new teams.

If the new members collectively say no to the league, there is no league and likely no obligations by the exiting teams to pay. This is pure speculation, but I am sure if the Big east was officially disbanded the operating agreements say that the exit fees are no longer obligations of the exiting teams. My guess is that this is the reason for the whole farce about UCF still joining the "Big East". financially it is in the best interests of everyone invovled to pretend that the organization still exists so that the exit fees can be collected. The new members want to play ball so they will likey agree to a split where the existing three get more, but I doubt they allow those teams to suck all the funds from the conference for themselves when they know each of those teams beleives they are next in line to leave. So a deal will be struck, and everyone will benefit. That is how conference affiliation works.

You will give up some of the money, the question is how much. That you still think this is about the Big East shows that you do not understand the dynamics of the situation. The issue is that the remaining three need the new members just as much as the new members need the remaining three. Maybe more because if the new members do not go along there will be no exit fees to collect.