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35 minutes ago, puc86 said:

John Kruk, David Welles, Cc Sabathia and Dmitri Young

Only one of these can really be even considered a star. Kruks claim to fame is running away from Randy Johnson 

12 minutes ago, Triple B said:

In this case it may have been yelling to make sure it gets through to a certain thick headed poster ....

True, I could be wrong but I felt like it carried over from another thread so I thought it was a pattern. But so could the thick headed poster. 

1 hour ago, Gatorbull325 said:

In addition to his 4 Star son that will be playing QB -

JSU recruits since Sanders' Sept. 21 announcement 

Mississippi State cornerback Javorrius Selmon

Holmes County defensive lineman Jeremiah Williams

Desert Pines (Nevada) defensive tackle Braezhon Ross

Mississippi Gulf Coast defensive end Jammie White

Trinity Christian (Texas) quarterback Shedeur Sanders

Tennessee walk-on linebacker Nyles Gaddy

Lincoln (California) athlete Herman Smith

Florida State defensive back Isaiah Bolden

Florida International offensive lineman Maljon Joor

USC outside linebacker Abdul-Malik McCain

 

With his son playing for this school, he is guaranteed 4 years at this spot. 

 

his son could leave after three... or transfer

39 minutes ago, puc86 said:

It’s not very often we have something to be excited about he is probably trying to be excited and we just forgot what that looks like.

i'm not necessarily knockin it. Just want to make sure I'm reading it right.

Is the all caps thing a gimmick or are you constantly yelling? 

is this something that can be disagreed on? 

26 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

I don’t think it is unfair but the women sports are going to raise holy hell, The revenue generated is used to prop up these other sports and if you use that to pay players how then do you prop up the other sports to comply with title IX.  One way or the other a lot of sports will disappear or be drastically reduced from collegiate sports.  I don’t really care, you could get rid of all of them but FB and MBB and I wouldn’t notice.

Well you also have to consider there would have to be a restructuring at all levels, programs, conferences, bowls..etc. We are also not talking about giving them an extra 20k per year. It can be done. Simply allowing them to cash in on marketing deals is a good way to the kids paid without touching the programs bottom line. As someone pointed out before, within reason. 

26 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

Hold off on paying them for as long as you can, most will simply fold up shop once this becomes available, you need to have money to pay these kids.  The thought of paying our team after last year’s performance is nauseating and there just is not enough revenue to do this at most levels with the exception of the top tier.  If you pay FB than you have to pay MBB and on and on, the popularity of the sport will go the way of boxing as it makes itself completely irrelevant.  There is not a workable economic model where this is feasible IMO.  

They are holding, but the dam is breaking. 

Again, there's no fair way to do it. But college sports isn't fair. It would have to be based on revenue and if your sport does not have a tv deal, you can rest assured, you aren't getting any money. Again, unfair. 

it would be very disadvantageous to the G5. The P5 would have the ability to do it with tv and conference funds and a little restructuring.   Whatever system is selected, it will be something that can be universally achieved by the P5 and capped. 

I think I would like to see a system where the athletic department selects a certain number of players that they plan to use in marketing and those players should be allowed to receive payments based on that. Then I would like to see all FBS athletes receive a payment from EA Sports for the next NCAA football game, but that's personal.

Was this not a foregone conclusion?

Transfer portal records show 1,720 FBS student-athletes entered the portal from October 15, 2018 to July 31, 2019. That was more than one out of every 10 players in the FBS.

26 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

Yep, it's about time to start calling it NFL minor leagues and start paying the players directly

22 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

And USF still wouldn't have the money to pay because donors like "I'm not contributing until that dude becomes at least a 2nd team all American".  And once that happens it would be "until he's first team All-American" and then "3rd round NFL draft pick".  

Point being I don't see how paying players works out well for USF.

I agree, it's time to pay them. No, it's not the best for any non P5 school but I think one of the best versions I have heard was to make it a leveled based system. 

In others words there would only be so many prospects that could be given a scholarship with the most money per school. Say there's five levels, a G5 school could essentially offer more money to a prospect simply because he is higher on their board.

I don't think there is any real way to make it a even system. It is also not perfect, it opens questions about can a student move up once he has been there and so fourth.

I think once we get to the pay for play system it will accompany a P5 break off. 

This is the nature of college football today. 

USF

10

Collins 17

Yetna- 10

60%

8 hours ago, Triple B said:

Point was the widespread election fraud that that loon in the UCF hat is supporting is just as mythical as their national championship.

I got ya, the terrible slogan and home girl looking like she’s about to talk in tongues kinda threw me off. Didn’t know what was going down.  

2 hours ago, Grateful Dad said:

I sincerely wish I didn't know what "stop the steal" meant.

I was in the dark on that. Feel like they gotta try a little harder on that one. 

13 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Squint at the cap, which should be black, of that delightful lady on the right doing the Horshack impression .......

I see, are we praising or protesting, and wtf does "stop the steal" mean? 

LSU

9

Brown- 14

Yetna- 9

60%

What is happening here? 

1 minute ago, chapelbull said:

I think the ones pretending are the ones pretending the Manager in the Year doesn't have anything to do with the team's success on the field

well they can't give the award to the front office, it has to go to someone........

The analytics game is different in Tampa than anywhere else. 

We can pretend that Cash has the same amount of autonomy as any other manager but that's just not true, there's a reason they pulled him out of a bullpen to be a manager.

There's a reason he has had three consecutive great seasons of over achieving and not getting approached for higher paying positions. 

USF

12

Murphy 17

Durr 12

60

USF

15

Murphy-18

Durr-10

60%

13 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

Wasn't Hall a 2 year guy? I was just following USF around that time.

13 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Yes, I believe that is correct. 

seems to correct, he was before my time as well, but was a name I have seen some of the OG's say good things about. I saw he was the schools leading rusher for over a decade so I figured that had a big impact. I guess in the grand scheme of things there's really no way of knowing how these player feel unless they say something. 

Again I want to point out that I don't have a problem with him not giving back. The discussion started over the term "heart and soul", I just feel like if the heart and soul of USF made that in a pro career, we would see the contributions back. 

I like him, I'm glad he came, I believe he likes us and is glad he came. There's just another level when it comes to heart and soul. 

7 hours ago, Friscobull said:

I think it is widespread that many pro players feel that they played for nothing and the University made millions on their backs hence the reason they want pay in college, this animosity carry’s over and a reason most don’t give money back to their alma mater to support this inequity.

I don’t believe that is wise spread and I haven’t seen anything stayed publicly. There is plenty about Athletes feeling exploited. But most of that is directed at the NCAA, as the schools are just following protocol. Most school would pay their athletes if they could. Some do it anyway. Can’t find one statement from a pro athlete refusing to give back on that basis. At least google doesn’t know about it. Money management and lack of connection to the school are the bigger issue. 

2 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

I've been chastised in the past about telling people how to spend their money. But still think it would be nice if they contributed. I have no idea who have our haven't.

To an extent I get that, not necessarily saying he needs to but he has made over 80 mil in the league. If there was some pride for the school, you would think he could find a small piece of that to give. Maybe he has and is just low key about it.