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I’m not saying they’re mutually exclusive. I’m saying there isn’t an option out there to improve the conference that involves us going anywhere.

There is no iteration of a future PAC that would double the revenue of the current aac. The aac deal will be averaging about 10m/season by the time the MWC deal ends in a couple years. That has stability and ny6/bball credits with solid linear coverage in an established league that is already ‘best of the rest’. People keep assuming things that don’t exist will magically be there because -what? The PAC name? Who here honestly thinks any media partner is opening their checkbook to create essentially a new conference with cal and Stanford as the headliners? The aac is the best spot for us today and tomorrow on all fronts. If the acc decides to expand with significant shares then get back to me. Leaving the aac to join western castoffs is accelerating death.

There doesn’t have to be a buyout, they can join when their deal ends. No hurry.

The ACC is dead one way or the other. SMU/Stanford aren’t changing that. Only way it makes sense is if we move nowish with full shares. Otherwise f’em and focus on being the best athletics program we can be.

That ‘conference’ doesn’t have a tv deal. Even if it did it would be on Apple for pennies which I’m not interested in at all. I like where we are which has tourney credits and NY6 and future playoff spot. They can come to us and we’d probably make more. Stanford has zero leverage other than going independent.. if they wanted to do that they’d do that out the gate. Letting them drive the bus is stupid, they are inept despite their name/brand/aau status whatever.

Not really looking like that at all. Wouldn’t want to leave guaranteed money for that mess anyway.

Pitt vs WVU is legitimately one of the best rivalries in the game and makes sense with Cincy and Louisville as a pod. They are going to the Big 12. GT is going to the BIG, they have historical ties to that conference going back like a hundred years. That leaves three schools. Even if it were the 5 you mention that’s not coming close to competing with the XII in anything.

I appreciate the fandom, but you’re being unrealistic. The moment the ACC opens up all but three schools are gone to other conferences. Our best chance is to make the AAC as strong as possible; ie add the PAC 4, poach a couple of the best MWC in a year or two and be ready to pickup maybe Wake Forest when the ACC crumbles. Do that and we are far and away the 4th best conference. There will be no acc in the future. The pac is dead. Take the remainders and make best possible coast to coast conference and do ESPN’s bidding. That’s it. The best option.

UVA is classic BIG market, not SEC.

I’d put $200m into an athletics endowment and use the interest to pay NIL. That would give our top 85 athletes over $188k/year and that would attract enough top talent to kill it in whatever conference we’re in.

If we’re talking about the future playoffs then the SEC is going to get at least 3-4 teams in every season, a good season by a bottom feeder gets them in, don’t even have to go to conference championship game. Think Kentucky lately, chronically underachieving but put together a couple decent years lately. If the MWC gets the pac 4 and can poach smu we’re going to need luck beyond an undefeated season to get into even the expanded playoffs. Our chances do go up in the new playoffs though, no doubt. We need Aresco to pull a rabbit out of the hat and secure a western wing to the conference, cement top 5 status/top 4 when the ACC dissolves.

It’s not the same situation as OU/T. Basically the whole conference will leave, not just two. Duke, Virginia, and GT will absolutely go to one of the SEC, BIG, or XII. The best basketball inventory is going to the aforementioned three conferences above and it is categorically false that current football value is on par with the XII. The worst team in that conference is WVU and that’s one of our favorite rivalries from era gone past. The ACC is two deep in football assuming fsu is back.

Sure but if they win the conference they’re in playoff , which is the point. Based on precedent they don’t even have to win their conference. Based on precedent, even if we go undefeated we probably don’t get in. Hell there was a team that went undefeated for two years with good p5 victories mixed in that didn’t get in. It took another school two years of being undefeated to get in.

I don’t understand the obsession with the ACC. They aren't adding anyone until they get decimated and by that time the conference will be dead and not worth crap. We are literally seeing it now with the PAC, this is exactly what’s going to happen in 10 years to the acc. Most everyone is resigned to their fate in that conference except for FSU, and that’s mainly because they’re afraid they’re getting passed by ucf in that 10 years and there’s nothing they can do about it so they’re stomping around crying.

If Vandy put together a good season and won the conference, they’d be in. Even if they lost in the conf championship game there’s a decent chance they get in. If we have a good season and win the conference even if we go undefeated we likely don’t get in.

As we all would…but unfortunately the moment the GOR gets opened up for FSU/Clemson about 7 other schools will bolt as well, leaving only Syracuse, Wake, and BC to pick up the pieces. At that point those schools will probably go to big east and drop football or join aac. There’s no such thing as the ACC losing just FSU and Clemson-the conference is snake bitten and will die. AAC needs to be proactive and look west, maybe grab CSU and AF then let the dominos fall on the rest of the mw conference and reassess. I don’t think tv partners are interested in spending any new money out west. Having contract in hand is gold for the aac.

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UTSA was a very good add as well. FAU is a ?? Agree but let’s bury FAU out the gate, not even let it blossom.

They can target whoever they want but no Big 12 school is going to the PAC, that would be suicidal.

July 1 is deadline for mwc to jump to another conference without paying double in exit fees. There’s no deadline for pac teams because as of now there’s no deal/buyout/contract/conference as of June 2024. That all changes in their new deal of course but until it’s done it doesn’t exist. Also not sure if your acc comments are trolling or whatever but by the time the acc does add schools it’ll just be the American/big east 2.0. They are going to get picked apart by the sec and big 10. The leftovers collectively are worth less than the new pac right now which is probably not going to be able to hold off the big 12 either so that means the middling schools in the acc will probably jump ship too. There’s legit going to be 3 maybe 4 schools left in the acc by the time they come calling for us.

The conference is actually looking pretty good to me. Tulane being good and winning NY6 bowl and keeping staff guarantees preseason top25 for them pretty much. That’s huge because we NEED the AAC to hold down that NY6 spot and having top 25 preseason team makes that easier. It’s a bigger league now but could be 6 deep if we or one of the new adds like FAU take off.

AAU is a nice consolation. That’s as honest as I can be.