SpeedBull

It almost had me in tears honestly. It goes way beyond any rivalry. As a father, to see that happen to any kid...it’s just sad and was hard to watch. 

He is a helluva player and by all accounts a good kid. I wish him nothing but the best and hope he can play again. What a shame.

You guys NAILED IT!

Exactly 50% Jeff Spicoli and 50% Harry Dunne!

LMAO

Classic responses....guys literally say “I’m not reading it”’ then ask why we need each other.

I’m generally not a fan of Tom Jones, but it’s actually a good article that makes sense. It’s people like these guys that epitomize the problem with USF fans. Keep putting your head in the sand and ignoring obvious truths.

I just hope that the powers that be at USF aren’t as short sighted and ignorant as many of the “fans” on this board. 

1 hour ago, Turd Ferguson said:

I’ll just come right out and say it:

This thread contains some of the most desperate and embarrassing straw-grasping I have ever witnessed as a fan of sports.  This thread makes me ashamed to be a Bulls fan right now.  I can only hope these are the thoughts of a ridiculously vocal few Bulls fans and not the thoughts of many.

Downright pathetic

Agreed. Exploiting the deaths of young men in a thread about programs and stadiums is shameful and pretty disgusting.

3 minutes ago, puc86 said:

I hope when we win the AAC that it’s everything that you dream it will be, my only dream is to get out of the AAC before it totally destroys our program.

Keep dreaming, it will surely come true. By the way, if the program gets “destroyed” it won’t be because we are in the AAC.

38 minutes ago, puc86 said:

I have plenty to be proud of as a USF fan @CousinRicky did a good job highlighting some of the reasons and there are plenty of marquee wins and major football accomplishments to go with those that I’m sure you would love to discount but I wasn’t arguing for our accomplishments or that their NY6 victories wouldn’t be accomplishments on par with ours, my argument is simply most people do not care about the AAC, pretty much everyone has no idea who won it and thus winning it is not a major accomplishment that would be program defining or celebrated in pretty much any circles except for a few people on USF and I’m assuming UCF message boards.

You know who else nobody cares about? The doormats of the P5. 

The AAC is the conference that we are in. It’s better to win it than to not win it.

We can’t win any other conference. Let’s take care of our business in the AAC first.

My point is that it’s embarrassing (or at least it should be) to bash UCF’s accomplishments in football. It’s based out of insecurity. They’ve won and we haven’t. Give credit where credit is due and then do our best to beat them. The false arrogance displayed is pretty weak.

I am a USF alumnus and I’m very proud of my degree and the university that I attended. I received a great education and earned my degrees.

However, last time I checked this is an “athletics” board, not a scholastics board. 

14 minutes ago, puc86 said:

I said their NY6 games and victories were exciting and something to be proud of, winning the AAC just isn’t something I think is a big thing to brag about because most people don’t even know the AAC is a real conference (it sounds made up). As for who will get in there is no evidence to support that winning conferences or winning in general has anything to do with conference realignment, see every team that got shuffled last go around and Boise that was better poised than UCF is currently. Pitt still plays in an NFL stadium and that didn’t seem to hold them back.

What should USF be proud of? We have neither of the things you mentioned.

7 minutes ago, puc86 said:

It’s the truth. I have yet to meet one person irl that cares one bit about AAC championship trophies, not one. I have however met tons of people that cared about big wins against marquee programs.

Those big wins against marquee programs were great. They were fun and “put us on the map”.

The problem is since we’ve been on the map, we haven’t done ****. We can’t win this crappy conference you are so quick to bash.

It’s really pathetic to talk about what happened years ago in a few instances. It’s the old dude bragging about high school and little league accomplishments.

We live in a results driven world. We haven’t won ****. UCF has won the conferences they’ve been in. Period. They have gotten better, we have gotten worse. Period. 

That invite to the better conference that you so covet, you know who would get it if the decision was made today??? My money is on them. The program with excitement, OCS and titles.

Keep on remembering that Auburn game from 11 years ago dude. The rest of the world pays attention to winners.

3 minutes ago, puc86 said:

If people remember marquee wins for any period of time that’s longer than they will remember an AAC championship of which they don’t even know exist much less bother to learn who won. If you have anything to be proud of it’s the NY6 victories in bowls people care about and against teams people know, the only way to win the AAC is to win a spot on the lifeboats out of it.

This is just stupid. 

2 hours ago, Apis Bull said:

Okay, once again, I feel that I must preface what I'm going to say.  I want an OCS.

With that said, if all these benefits are, "obvious" please provide links that support these assertions.

Enough with the “link” nonsense. Jessica Alba is hot. Most would agree...I’m not going to spend hours finding out scientific evidence as to why she is hot. 

1 minute ago, USFBulls727 said:

I would think an OCS would bring in more donor $$$. There has to be data on that between UCF, Colorado State, Houston, and maybe a few others who have recently built stadiums. Too lazy to look it up right now,  but has anyone seen or looked that up?

Some things in life are just obvious, and USF needing an OCS to develop more excitement and tradition is one of them. Anyone who says otherwise has some ulterior motive and I just don’t get it.

The whole “it’s all about winning” is total bunk. Every single year in college football it’s Alabama and everyone else. Ask Cubs fans how much winning added to the game day experience up until recently. And no, before someone takes easy bait, make no mistake. I want to win and see the program build a winning tradition.

The whole “it’s about the conference” we are in is nonsense too. There is a ton of excitement all over the country at schools outside of the P5. There is also tradition at schools within the P5 that have zero legitimate chance at a National Championship or even Conference Championship year in most years.

There is no excitement on campus. Listen to the guy that posted up that has 2 students at USF now. His kids are telling him as much. Ray Jay is not our house, it never was and it never will be. 

The college campus is a special place. It is a place that alumni want to go back to and show their kids. It’s a place those kids aspire to go to one day to get their education. It’s a place some of those kids may be a 4-5 star athletes.

It’s all of those things and more. The idea that attendance and building tradition is ONLY winning and conference is just wrong. Period. I believe the people that are still clinging to this argument know it’s wrong too.

42 minutes ago, ArmyBull said:

Apis is absolutely going to delete this post.  

Delete the post??

I’ll translate it.

He said, “They have excitement because they’ve earned it and they’ve made an effort to generate excitement. UCF has made a commitment to their program by building an OCS amongst other things. I can’t completely sell out my own program, but it’s pretty obvious UCF has done a much better job than USF has done.”

6 hours ago, NJBull said:

UCF has nothing to play for (which is a story in itself).  Let's face it they keep winning they are not getting to #4.  

Yes they do. It’s called pride.

11 hours ago, usfgrad84 said:

Yeah, remind me which are Heupel’s guys on UCF. 

Just being a wise ass. Lol

This is 100% true. Heupel was smart enough to not try to fix what wasn’t broken. 

Slowing down the offense was the beginning of the end for us. I have been in the keep Strong camp...now I’m swaying. Our brand of football is boring. The team just has an overall lack of excitement and enthusiasm.

I don’t see excitement when we do things well and I don’t see any anger or emotion when we don’t. It’s boring and frustrating.

8 hours ago, Brad said:

 

It's meaningless.

Coaches of real programs don't look at meaningless bowl games as meaningful games.

They crafted a great narrative of which many believed.

What did Auburn or Baylor have to gain from taking UCF seriously?  The same could be said for us in their shoes. 

Answer:  NOTHING!

It was a holiday, a vacation.

This is absurd. If USF was doing what UCF is doing you’d never say these things. Give credit where credit is due.

Aren't you one of the many that’s still clinging to a 2007 win against West Virginia?

I’ve been in the keep Coach Strong camp, but I’ve become very frustrated.

I can’t stand passionless leaders. Belichek will be the last of that dying breed. And obviously CCS is no Belichek.

Leaders need to lead. Leaders need to be passionate to inspire loyalty and dedication. I’ve never seen joy or anger in CCS. He is not an inspirational leader. He can recruit, no doubt about it. But the game has changed. Talent alone isn’t enough anymore.

Young men, now more than ever need to be lead. They need to be inspired. The days of the stoic head coach are gone.....Maybe that means CCS needs to move on.

2 minutes ago, JTrue said:

Boobs would like to argue against this point. There have been very little improvements on them since I was 10. Neutral and amazing. Burritos concur.

Sales rule #1...find something in common and expand on it.

Boobs are wonderful, totally agree

1 minute ago, Rocky Style said:

USF = Status quo.  

That’s getting worse 

1 minute ago, JTrue said:

I am 100% in favor of an OCS, however, I do not think it would have won us the Houston game or the UCF game last year. Nor do I think it would have won the last 4 for us this year.

Agreed. An OCS won’t win individual games, but it will help build the program.

In business, in sports, in life....there is no neutral. You’re either getting better or you’re getting worse. UCF is getting better....USF?? 

Just now, Thebullsfan said:

With what money are we going to build this stadium? 

 

We?? It’s not my problem. If WE want to matter THEY (USF) will figure it out.

If not....YOU will continue to relive one game in 2007.

16 minutes ago, JTrue said:

I'm all substanced out after giving you 19 concrete examples of things USF could have used more than an OCS in 2017 or 2018. But, I never want to disappoint my readers. You think Britney Spears ever does a show and doesn't do Hit Me Baby One More Time?

The Britney smack is solid dude. You are a funny dude True. I laugh at your stuff on the regular and I actually enjoy the spar with you.

We both love the Bulls, we both know I’m right and the world will still keep turning. 

2 minutes ago, JTrue said:

Is there some other kind of experience at a stadium I don’t know about other than live?

There’s the substance-less snark everyone’s come to expect.