JupiterBull

Class of 2015.  Looks impressive.

 

 

 

Joe Schad â€@schadjoe 4m

Michael Dyer still has USF as option; has been hoping Louisville visit/offer could still be possible

IF he has an offer from us, and wants to be here, commit... a bit annoyed that a chance was given (if we are to believe it has been) but not taken...

(I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE BUTT HURT!)

 

Butt hurt is not real; it is a product of the thoughts you create .... butt hurt is a choice.

 

It's hard to argue THIS year that USF is better for him, if he's looking for team success and a platform to the NFL.  What we do give is a young coach that can mentor him, and a lock on being not just a starter, but a workhorse putting up big numbers.  I realize we're not the SEC, or even the ACC...and we have to live with that disadvantage.  That said, hopefully Lville passes (I don't think they're as selective as some would want us to believe), and Dyer quits the search & gets to USF campus to get started on his trek to the NFL, after taking us to a 9 win season.

 

 

What?

 

You seriously think USF is a better option for him if he wants to go to the NFL than a team that many believe have a legit shot at the NC game?

 

Seriously?

 

Data, I thought you were smarter than you're showing. Read it again...slowly.  I said "It's hard to argue THIS year that USF is better for him, if he's looking for team success and a platform to the NFL".

If you were baffled by the ending sentence, that means he is headed to the NFL...us or otherwise.

It's not that hard to follow.

 

Joe Schad â€@schadjoe 3h

Michael Dyer still has USF as option; has been hoping Louisville visit/offer could still be possible

 

 

So we are his safety net if he can't get an offer from Louisville?

 

I'm pulling for the USF RBs on the team. I don't care if he comes to USF or not; I've wasted enough time on this guy.

 

I care about the players who want to be at USF!

 

It does make me start to think "good luck elsewhere...you'll regret not taking Taggart's offer".  But that's the baby in me, and I'm trying to quell the SOB.

 

Joe Schad â€@schadjoe 4m

Michael Dyer still has USF as option; has been hoping Louisville visit/offer could still be possible

IF he has an offer from us, and wants to be here, commit... a bit annoyed that a chance was given (if we are to believe it has been) but not taken...

(I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE BUTT HURT!)

 

Butt hurt is not real; it is a product of the thoughts you create .... butt hurt is a choice.

 

It's hard to argue THIS year that USF is better for him, if he's looking for team success and a platform to the NFL.  What we do give is a young coach that can mentor him, and a lock on being not just a starter, but a workhorse putting up big numbers.  I realize we're not the SEC, or even the ACC...and we have to live with that disadvantage.  That said, hopefully Lville passes (I don't think they're as selective as some would want us to believe), and Dyer quits the search & gets to USF campus to get started on his trek to the NFL, after taking us to a 9 win season.

Ooops.  I swear it showed Florida...but not shows FSU.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6004469

In my best Rosanne Rosanadana..."Nevermind".

Well, if he was looking for UF, they just grabbed a 3 star. Maybe this helps nudge him to the good guys.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6004469

 

Not sure if someone posted this, but here's th Lville buzz someone noted.  One guy (FWIW) claims Strong is friends with Dyer's current coach...which is suspect, since I don't think he has a current coach, or even a recent one, frankly).

 

http://louisville.247sports.com/Board/59439/Michael-Dyer-former-Auburn-RB-19958979/1

 

I think we'll hear next week, and this may be the busiest topic, barring some great news coming out of this weekend's Sling N Shoot.

 

This may or may not have anything to do with this but Charlie Strong is from Arkansas.

 

It may come down to Strong v Taggart, or Lville better odds of a great season v USF's near certainty of being the featured back, with 250+ carries and a resume for the NFL (I really don't expect him to play anywhere > one year, unless he's really intent on getting a 4 year degree).

Not sure if someone posted this, but here's th Lville buzz someone noted.  One guy (FWIW) claims Strong is friends with Dyer's current coach...which is suspect, since I don't think he has a current coach, or even a recent one, frankly).

http://louisville.247sports.com/Board/59439/Michael-Dyer-former-Auburn-RB-19958979/1

I think we'll hear next week, and this may be the busiest topic, barring some great news coming out of this weekend's Sling N Shoot.

When I first started to read up on Dyer, he made it out like nobody would even flinch at him; he was even willing to walk-on at Arkansas.

 

1) He visited USF.

 

2) He apparently visited Louisville.

 

I'm just guessing here (going on that article Greg published). I think we are still in it and will be one of the options.

 

But this makes me worry about the sincerity of this guy -that's he's changed. I don't know. Just a gut feeling. Makes me worried, though. Maybe we should let him get his "fresh start" elsewhere.

He should do what's best for him, just as most of do when job hunting.  If it's mutually best for both of us, he'll be here.  For now, we assume we don't have him, and get ready for smash mouth in 6 weeks...and we can be pleasantly surprised if he comes to USF.  I'm hoping Shaw, and one of the incoming freshmen, step up.  I like McCray, and think he's got a shot to contribute early.

Guys, you're outta your element!

Found the WR...STRONG, and impressive bio.

http://www.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/ga/blackshear/pierce-county-high-school/dillon-veal

I don't see him on recruiting sites, so maybe he's a sleeper, or doesn't rate as high with the "experts". I'm sure he gets scouts, by virtue of the attention Harris gets.

I'm interested in the receiver he is throwing to...

I saw that, too...#14 is a beast.  Would be good to get some info on him.

Louisville recruits FL at a crazy rate. It's important to beat Louisville when we're going after these guys, and that's what we did here. Offers from Kentucky, Louisville, Illinois and indiana aren't too bad.

Beating them on the field will truly turn the tide.  We snagged a big DT from them last year, so we are using the leverage we have.

 

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/2013/07/05/louisville-showed-interest-in-michael-dyer-last-year/

 

Things are pretty quiet surrounding Dyer. 

 

Quote (July 5th):

 

 

 

At this point, it doesn’t appear that Louisville is pursuing Dyer anymore, which may end up being a good thing. He has quite a bit of baggage that could serve as a distraction. However, being a part of the type of program that Charlie Strong is running here at Louisville may be exactly what Dyer needs.

 

Good reporting, indeed:  "Dyer recently received his masters degree from Arkansas Baptist College."  Skip Louisville, Mr. Dyer...run with the Bulls!

Seems he'll be on campus today, if this is accurate.  Maybe we'll hear soon on him, tho' it seems a long shot, with lots of time till NSD.

1. Greg Aumanâ€@gregauman8 Jul
2. That retweet is consensus 4-star Fort Myers WR Ryeshene Bronson, former Gators commitment, who will visit USF and Alabama next week

1. Ryeshene Bronsonâ€@RyesheneB8 Jul

   Usf and Alabama where I will be July 14 bama 17 usf any interviews I'll be doing them#247

   Retweeted by Greg Auman

 

Making room?

 

GA Tweets

 

Former USF walk-on QB Trenton Miller (Palmetto) has transferred to Div. II Mars Hill College in N.C. Will have 4 years to play there

Did we need more room? I thought we were ok because someone dropped back a class due to grades. 

 

I don't think dropping a walk on does much for room...and I don't think is news, as Data points out, this is just likely updating to show where he's headed.  Good luck to him.

 

Very quiet all around...but I'm guessing he needs to decide pretty soon, as classes start next month.

This is good news. No denials from Dyer Camp despite the enormous amount of press. The paperwork, ordering the ankle bracelet and process takes a few days at least, My lottery day for announcement is tomorrow.  If this wasn't moving forward, someone would have quashed the rumor by now.

 

I think you're right, BW...radio silence is good.  Haven't seen any news of him visiting other schools.  So, maybe Taggart hooked him.  Even a one & done could be awesome...and MAYBE Shaw takes a redshirt?  Or, we may have enough young talent that Shaw just winds up the perennial back up.

he would destroy the competition in aac

 

easily averaging 125 yards a game

My only reservation is not knowing how good our line will be. Reiter is our best young OL, or perhaps Eatmon.  If others step up, we could be pretty good up front.  Losing Popek hurts, but that's life in the NCAA.  I would not be surprised at all to see Dyer average 125 or more at USF...if we can get him here & on the field.  Very quiet all around...but I'm guessing he needs to decide pretty soon, as classes start next month.

Oh, the horror!  I suggested a player should actually prove they can follow team rules and produce on the field before anointing them the savior. 

 

Shockingly high standards I have.

You're twisting it a bit, but backpedalling is ok. You compared him to the Ford optimism, and people pointed out that Ford was a 5 star with no college experience then, and Dyer was a stud for a National Championship team...surely you can see the HUGE difference people are pointing out.

As to the "follow the rules" adder, that's a given...most of us reserve final judgement till they actually get on the live grass & "do something".  A few will be giddy at the prospect, but that's ok, too.

I don't think we're annointing his as savior, but there is no doubt he has the potential to take our offense from a C to a B+.  If he gives us anything like his first 2 years, we're WAY better with him (assuming no off field troubles).  I realize we have to block for him, and have other weapons (Cam Newton surely helped him, and vice versa)...but I also realize he won't be running v SEC teams if joins USF (until our bowl game at least...dare to dream).

 

Pretty sure this kid was the offensive MVP in the National Championship he won and has had 2 consecutive 1,000 yard rushing seasons. He and Ford are very different.

I read the same level of optimism when Ford came on board.  And lots of other guys.  I'll let CWT do his job and get the best available talent.   I'll get excited about the players that actually produce, not the ones I imagine will produce in my mind.  Lots of five stars bust, lots of two stars shine.

 

Prove it.

 

The point was...Dyer has ALREADY produced at the highest stage in college football.  Ford never did.  Dyer will still have to produce for us (or whoever), but it's not like he's a 5 star HS and no one knows if he can succeed in college.  This guy is a likely NFL player, if he plays & acts smart.  He's not Ford, or Aycock...or even D Scott.

i think Triple B was referring to the article i posted from USAToday that talks about how Dyer got his AA from Arkansas BaptistSchool and mentioned how he didn't bring any of his other baggage with him.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/07/auburn-arkansas-baptist-michael-dyer/2496913/

That's an impressive read.  Anyone who reads this, and still doesn't want him here isn't being very conservative (in my opinion)...again, that assumes he passes the Coach Taggart smell test, not our "only what we read" assessment.  This guy could elevate our program and get us 7-8 wins, assuming the rest of the team shows up strong.

 

 

I don't like the baggage, as most don't.  But this is an area of desperate need, and if Coach Taggart can connect with Dyer, and convince Dyer that he will start & star here, on scholarship, if he stays out of trouble and does fairly well in class, then I think this could be a HUGE get for our Bulls.

 

Having Dyer on board won't thrill Shaw or the incoming freshmen, but that's life in competitive sports.  If Dyer has a monster season, he may be a "one & done"...but that's not a bad thing, if we at least get one monster season out of him (imagine him running all over UM and Lville...if our line can give him some gaps, he'll be our next 1,000 yard rusher, and SERIOUSLY take pressure off the QB, and open up play action for Price, Davis, Dvo and the team).  A stud RB can transform an offense, and we need it.

Did you poll to find out if most don't.  I am willing to go with Coach Taggart thinks, not with the knuckleheads on this board.

 

Might want to go back and read his post again... I can't think of anyone who would "like" the baggage (consider it a positive rather than a negative).  Jupiter said he would still be willing to give him the chance despite the baggage.

 

Thanks for the translation help.  No one should "like" the baggage, but I defer to Coach Taggart (I suppose I could've been more clear on the latter, but not sure how to be more clear on the former).  But yes, there will be issues to overcome, but I believe he'd be a tremendous boost to our team.

I don't like the baggage, as most don't.  But this is an area of desperate need, and if Coach Taggart can connect with Dyer, and convince Dyer that he will start & star here, on scholarship, if he stays out of trouble and does fairly well in class, then I think this could be a HUGE get for our Bulls.

Having Dyer on board won't thrill Shaw or the incoming freshmen, but that's life in competitive sports.  If Dyer has a monster season, he may be a "one & done"...but that's not a bad thing, if we at least get one monster season out of him (imagine him running all over UM and Lville...if our line can give him some gaps, he'll be our next 1,000 yard rusher, and SERIOUSLY take pressure off the QB, and open up play action for Price, Davis, Dvo and the team).  A stud RB can transform an offense, and we need it.

Any idea on when he expects to commit?  Is this for 2013, or 2014?

Hard to pass up, after watching Sammy Watkins prosper there (except for his legal issues).  Glad he's committed, and we can move on to focus on the highest ranked WR targets we're still chasing.